Talk:List of demonyms for US states and territories

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Pennsylvania

I've removed Pennsylvania Dutch and Pennsylfaanier. These were added without sources by an IP in 2020. "Pennsylfaanier" was later sourced, but is nothing but "Pennsylvanian" in Pennsylvania Dutch. Pennsylvania Dutch is not a general demonym for inhabitants of Pennsylvania. It's a specific ethnic group. Meters (talk) 06:14, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

While I agree with the removal, you misread the addition: Pennsylvania Dutch: Pennsylfaanier. "Pennsylvania Dutch" was followed by a colon, indicating it is the language in which the following word is from. BilCat (talk) 07:12, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. Meters (talk) 07:44, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Map Updates

If any updates to the maps are needed, reply in this topic so I get a notification and can get on it ASAP. Thanks! HMElza (talk) 16:27, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

@HMElza shouldn't California, Mississippi, Missouri, and Pennsylvania be red, not green? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 03:11, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

California ends in “ia” so only an “n” is added, similar to Virginia or Pennsylvania. HMElza (talk) 03:21, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

This page shows each of the states and what suffix they are. HMElza (talk) 03:24, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

The 2016 (latest) edition of the US GPO Style Manual still recommends "Michiganian" as the demonym for residents of Michigan. On the map, it is listed as "Michigander". Liassica (talk) 00:47, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Quite likely because Michigander is the norm in actual usage. Not clear why the Fed style manual should be the authority on this. dictionary.com: "A recent poll conducted on six-hundred Michigan residents shows that fifty-eight percent of those surveyed prefer to call themselves Michiganders while only twelve percent favor Michiganian as their choice demonym. The remaining thirty percent were fine with both, did not like either of the two, or simply did not care." Not, perhaps, an approved source, but it does report reality. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 14:04, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Both the map and the table below list the US GPO Style Manual as their source. Therefore, they should reflect said document. Liassica (talk) 17:14, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Or a more trustworthy source should be identified, one resultant of actual empirical research rather than who-knows-how who came up with the demonyms in the Fed style manual. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 17:59, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Feel free to create a separate post on this talk page with your suggestion. However, that would involve changing much more than just the map. Liassica (talk) 18:06, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

I agree with the discussion about Michigander being more widely used; however, I will update the map to match the GPO since that is what the map source is. HMElza (talk) 18:09, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Mention in the lead that the GPO choices do not necessarily reflect actual in-state majority usage would be welcome. Case in point that apparently was actually changed by the GPO is Indianan, reported as replaced by Hoosier in 2016. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 18:42, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Remove Source Netstate.com

I am suggesting that we remove the source "netstate.com" and re-source or remove any information from that source under the general Wikipedia Reliable Sources policy. This website itself does not have national recognition, notable authors nor sources for its own materials. If no contest, I'll contribute the change.

Geoff (talk) 22:04, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Connecticut

looks like there's been quite a few folks who have tried to edit the page to replace the gpo-official "connecticuter" with "nutmegger"; i've reverted the most recent such edit so that the page is once again accurate, but based on this and the discussion above, it might be prudent to add some clarifying text regarding the GPO standards and common usage? i am going to attempt as much but i figured it would probably be helpful to have more of a discussion on this than just a contextless edit

Irlpinkiepie (talk) 00:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I added a comment to the article about the GPO source, and added the citation to the GPO column too, but it's still going on. I don't think any number of notes is going to help. The page was protected, the IP editor was blocked, but they are back again. Per the cited source, page 95 in the cited section, §5.23, clearly says: "In designating the natives of the States, the following forms will be used. ... Connecticuter". Page 95 of the document is page 109 of the pdf, so the direct link is: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2016/pdf/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2016.pdf#page=109

We're not saying "Nutmegger" isn't used. We're not making any claim about which term is more common, we're simply listing "Connecticuter" as the term the GPO recommends, in the appropriate column for the GPO recommendations. Falsely claiming that that reference is 50-years-old [1] (it's actually from 2016) is not going to work. Falsely claiming in edit summaries that that reference actually lists "Nutmegger" [2] [3] is not going to work. Changing the edit notice to falsely claim that the reference actually lists "Nutmegger" [4] [5] is not going to work. Meters (talk) 03:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)