Talk:List of dinosaur genera

Citations

George Olshevsky's "Dinosaur Genera List" is used as the primary source for the names/entries on this page, especially for new taxa, as the other sources only cover until 1993, 1995, or 2004. However, Olshevsky's list has not been updated since June of 2021, and most likely will not continue to be updated as he sadly passed away recently.

I assume all of the taxa described since June (and going forward) should be cited individually?

As a side note, I archived all of the previous conversations here. The last archive was in 2008(!). -SlvrHwk (talk) 03:23, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

I guess so. Helps just in case someone drives by and claims it can't be a featured list due to lack of inline citations. Good thing I have a chronological list of dinosaur discoveries so I know what to cite. Atlantis536 (talk) 05:04, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Great. Thanks for adding those. It would have taken me much longer! -SlvrHwk (talk) 04:11, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Image replacement

A few months ago, I replaced the page's illustrations of Herrerasaurus and Yi with those of Heterodontosaurus and Yinlong. My reasoning was that Herrerasaurus could be a non-avian dinosauriform and that Yi could be an avialan, which would bring them outside the scope of "non-avian dinosaurs" as defined by the rules of the list. However, just yesterday, an IP (who I assume to be the same person as the other IP's in the page history who care so much about the diversity of the images) reverted me on the basis of herrerasaurids and scansoriopterygids not being otherwise represented in the images. I for once believe that the list is diverse enough,and the addition of possible non-dinosaurs could be confusing, so I temporarily reverted the IP. But I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter. Atlantis536 (talk) 00:28, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

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Criteria for inclusion

What's stated in the article lead, which is fairly lax, doesn't jell with recent history. I see for instance Oculudentavis was removed for now not being considered a dinosaur, when the paper coining the name asserted it was a dinosaur, avian or otherwise. I'd think then that, as far as inclusion goes, a team of experts in the field publishing their research on a high impact journal is fairly noteworthy as a primary source. What happened afterward doesn't really enter into whether the name makes the cut, though it certainly should be commented upon. Unless the idea is to update the criteria to be more strict, but that should be reflected on the lead and not just happen as a matter of editors weeding the list regardless. Dracontes (talk) 21:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• Oculudentavis was initially described as an avialan dinosaur. This list specifically excludes avialans unless they have initially been interpreted as non-avialan. 22:56, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• Can I ask why this list includes non-dinosaurs like crocadilians, even though it's a list of dinosaurs? The list is very long, shouldn't it just include dinosaurs? Mattximus (talk) 23:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Why? Because, as is clearly stated in the lead, this list includes "...all genera that have ever been considered to be non-avian dinosaurs...". All of the non-dinosaurian organisms included on the list were originally incorrectly identified as dinosaurs. But why do you even bother asking, seeing as you know the answer full well, this very point having been discussed at length here on multiple occasions? [1][2][3][4][5] -SlvrHwk (talk) 23:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

The fact it's been discussed so many times does mean it's not a uncontroversial thing to being up again. The list is far too long, and would be more useful if it just contained dinosaurs, and not things like (a you mentioned) wood. Or split the list into a second list of former dinosaurs? Would that be worth discussing? Mattximus (talk) 03:29, 11 May 2024 (UTC)