Talk:List of electoral wards in Greater London
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624 wards
editSaying there are 588 wards is not correct. There are 624 wards. Also, although most return 3 members not all do. For example in Bromley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.71.169.157 (talk) 16:38, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
(Ward)
editI am watching this page and would like to clean it up but I am a bit lazy and the same problem keeps coming back. There is a huge amount of red links. People keep adding (ward). Example of many: "Becontree (ward)" has no article but "Becontree" does. People may disagree but what I think is best is: if there is a place called "Becontree" and a ward called "Becontree" that covers roughly the same area as the place and has the same name as the place why not just link to the place "Becontree", then mention if one can be bothered in the "Becontree" article that it is a ward plus add any ward relevant info like boundary map or description, population of ward, politicians/chairman of the ward and their party and election results.
I would personally prefer the above in one article, however I am not completely against them being split like the boroughs are Bromley an Bromley borough are different of course. example Stoke Newington and other Hackney wards split but someone has made the article.
What I don't like is a page full of redlinks like "Becontree (ward)|Becontree" where "Becontree" has an article, is in the same place as the ward and the link reads as "Becontree" but actually goes to "Becontree (ward)" which does not have an article, so if I want to read about that area I have to type the place in myself because the link that could go there goes nowhere instead. Carlwev (talk) 14:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Ward vs settlement
editInteresting comment above, and it leads me to the point I want to make, which I believe is important. There is a difference between the ward and the settlement: for ease of reference I have taken the London Borough of Bexley
- a ward is the result of dividing up the next largest local government area (in this case the London Borough) into equally-populated sections, so that councillors represent the same number of voters as the other wards. There is a good map showing how this came about in Bexley.
- the easiest division is a settlement of a reasonable size and its immediate area (eg Erith)
- where some parts of the Borough don't have that, it is often the case that two or more settlements are combined (Falconwood and Welling)
- where no reasonable-sized settlement exists at all, the name of the ward has to be conjured up from a landmark, perhaps (Lesnes Abbey); or from an ecclesiastical parish (St Michael's)
What is important is that these are all ward names and do not necessarily need to be referred to in the non-ward article. It is a nonsense to allude to it as Falconwood and Welling, since that refers to two separate entities. It isn't even the case that the place called Welling is exactly the same as the part of the ward. The main article goes on to list the settlements anyway.
And yet all the LB articles do precisely the same thing! Peter Shearan (talk) 19:12, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
More ward vs settlement
editThe purpose of this page is to advance local wards up the civic agenda. A ward being separate from a settlement because they tend to be bigger or Victorian expansions in between the historical settlements. Stoke Newington Central (ward) excludes big chunks of Stoke Newington most of which is terraced semidetached Victorian developments that are then named after local roads Clissold Crescent Clissold (ward) and Lordship Road Lordship (ward) but also include ancient settlements such as Shacklewell in Dalston (ward), and and Kingsland, London in Queensbridge (ward), again named after a local road.
The purpose of having red/dead links is to produce 31 other editors dedicated to doing the entries for their local Borough’s geo-political units. Any random page selection produces articles on the most obscure settlement of sometimes less than a thousand residents in the US, but in the UK we do seem somehow to be more focussed on aristocratic biography such as Viscount Valentia than on modern geographical democratic political divisions. Jed keenan (talk) 12:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think it makes sense for some wards to have their own articles, for example Darwin (which isn't a place itself but covers several villages) and Lewisham Central (which covers two localities - Lewisham town centre and Hither Green). Crookesmoor (talk) 10:30, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
"624 wards" wording
editI've changed "six hundred and twenty four" to "624". I think with large numbers such as this it is much easier to read when written in numerals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.78.57 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 30 June 2011
1965 wards
editI seem to remember reading that the 1965 wards were the wards of the previous local authorities with a few adjustments. Can't remember where and can't find it now. Does anyone have a source to confirm this? MRSC (talk) 08:06, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Barking and Dagenham
editCame across [1]: what changes were there? Jackiespeel (talk) 13:04, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Roehampton & Putney Heath ward
editFor clarity - was this ward so named 2010-5 May 2022 when it reverted to Roehampton? Jackiespeel (talk) 21:11, 26 November 2022 (UTC)