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Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2023

Add epithet 'Chow' for Chinese person, used in early 20th-century New Zealand.

See https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers?end_date=17-10-1950&items_per_page=10&query=Chow&snippet=true&sort_by=byDA&title=NZTR for hundreds of instances of use in the publication NZ Truth. Earliest instance 1906, latest 1928. Thank you. Tmar196 (talk) 03:09, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

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Done Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:18, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2023

Please add the word "Merkin." Merkin is a slur for individuals of American nationality (https://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/merkin.htm). Its origin comes from arround the 1600s (https://www.oed.com/dictionary/merkin_n1?tab=factsheet#37341709). The word sounds like, 'Murican, the slang word for American. A merkin is a wig designed to cover the pubic hair and genitalia of women. It has been used by nobility women, actresses, and prostitutes (https://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/merkin-pubic-wig-hollywood-rooney-mara-patricia-arquette-evan-rachel-wood-kate-winslet-heidi-klum/). Similar to Malkin, a slur for lower class women and prostitutes (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/malkin) DumBassName (talk) 21:09, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Where does it say it's a "slur for individuals of American nationality"? Also, in 1450, it was a "malkin"? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:14, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Edited it DumBassName (talk) 21:21, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

That some people on Usenet used it as a pun does not seem sufficient to consider that it has entered the language as a slur. The article Merkin use to mention it, but it was removed as trivia. The discussion about it is at Talk:Merkin#Some evidence on Merkin and American. It is mentioned that the OED has it, but people still considered it trivia. I opposed it being there and I oppose it being on this list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:29, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi Protected edit request 12/21/23

Please add the following terms-

Moon Cricket- Used to refer to African Americans. The exact origin of moon crickets is obscure. One theory suggests it begins with US slaves, who sang as a pastime—an act of community and resistance—at night after their labor. Crickets are known to chirp in the evening, when the moon is out.

(More information is offered on the source)

source- https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/moon-crickets/

Porch Monkey- Used to refer to African Americans. Porch monkey, as Green’s Dictionary of Slang finds, is recorded by the 1980s. The slur characterizes Black people as lazy, having nothing better to do than hang around on their porches all day. Some think porch monkey also alludes to the perceived living conditions of certain Black people—stereotyping them as residing in low-income housing that lacks air-conditioning and forces them outside to stay cool.

source- https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/porch-monkey/

Jigaboo- a contemptuous term used to refer to a Black person.

source- https://www.dictionary.com/browse/jigaboo Pipistrello147 (talk) 05:45, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

"Monkey" is already on the list. "Porch Monkey" is a variation of that. "Jigaboo" is also already on the list. I added "Moon Cricket". I am not particularly supporting it. Animal names for slurs are common and could insult anyone. This one seems a bit obscure and could be used affectionally. The citation mentions a restaurant was named "Moon Cricket". However, the citation says it is a slur against black people. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:29, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Can someone add "Čobol" ?

https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Čobolák It's a derogatory word for Slovaks commonly used by Czechs, I think it belongs here. 217.195.174.142 (talk) 11:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Robotic

Robotic is a slur used to describe asian people as automatons and As Asian immigrants started excelling in their jobs and careers, a stereotype was slapped onto them. They became the “model minority,” being known as “robots” or “worker bees.”

source:'UCI

University of california Reddit discussion 187.189.135.27 (talk) 07:51, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

I am not sure if a stereotype is the same as a slur. There is a stereotype of Blacks being lazy, but calling them lazy is not an ethnic slur. The slurs we list tend to be nouns, not adjectives. Calling anyone a robot could be insulting. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 21:13, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2024

chernozhopy in russian is targeting black peolpe fron cherniy(black) and zhopa(ass) being "blackass" combined Ggauzin (talk) 17:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

@Ggauzin: Can you provide a reliable source for that? Liu1126 (talk) 00:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Seawolf35 ^T--C 04:22, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Spelling mistake

Under the section S there is a spelling mistake in the slot of ,,Schvartse, Schwartze,, in German Black means ,,Schwarz,,

Schwartz is more equal to a last name. BrokenArrow001 (talk) 14:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2024

Term: Rat; Location or origin: United States; Target: Asian Americans; Meaning, origin and notes: Used as a derogatory term and imagery in racist World War II propaganda art; References: https://www.history.navy.mil/content/dam/museums/hrnm/Education/EducationWebsiteRebuild/AntiJapanesePropaganda/AntiJapanesePropagandaInfoSheet/Anti-Japanese%20Propaganda%20info.pdf & https://cwp.missouri.edu/2012/wwii-propaganda-the-influence-of-racism/

Just wanted this term to be added with sources. StopAAPIcrimes (talk) 02:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done yet: Feel free to correct me if wrong -- I don't believe the provided sources support your claim.

Although offensive to represent someone as a rat, it was common to refer to any group of disliked people as animals at large, and illustrate as such.

"Rat", being an animal, is a generally negative term with no specific ethnic connotation on its own. There have been various claims that it is a slur, however each with different targeted groups: Those impoverished, (Colorado Politics) of Semetic background, (Business Insider) Asian (as you said), and so forth.

I believe the term in itself may be too vague and uncommon to be documented here. That doesn't mean it isn't a slur in context, however. Derivatives of this term are more common, too, including "sand rat" and "river rat".

— Urro^{[user][talk][edits]}

18:06, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2024

when i was a kid i was called "street shitter" in elementary school on a very consistent basis, and i feel incredibly misrepresented by it not being in this page. honestly its not too important to me, but it would make me feel a lot better (i am south asian and was consistently bullied on the basis of race, my username is not my name i wanna clarify)

if u do choose to include this, please include the following informations Term: Street Shitter Location of Origin: (tbh idk, but im canadian, so maybe North America?) Targets: South Asians Meaning, Origin and Notes: honestly im alright with this beign left blank, i dont really feel like more notes have to be added, the idea of typing them feels sorta racist Joe Walburg 24 (talk) 21:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 21:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Make a list of slurs by race pls

that’s literally it 2600:1002:B008:EF3B:8112:ED72:4ECF:E7EB (talk) 20:23, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

See List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

"Neechie" is not a racial slur, please remove it from this list

Im not sure as to why Neechie & various spellings thereof is added as a slur. I see the citation there, but i can see the source from which it originayes was made by two non-Native Americans who obviously do not know the context of this word.

I'm a Cree Native American & I speak Cree. "Neechie" is a word in both Cree (& Ojibwe) that stems from the word "Nicîwakân" which means "my friend", and obviously traditionally was used in the contexts of friendship & comradery before the introduction of the English language, and then later shortened in its slang form to still mean the same thing.

Neechie is solely used as an affectionate term between friends & particularly Native Americans: it gained popularity amongst other tribes later & is now also used as a term for other Native Americans as a show of comradery & friendship amongst tribes, but its basically used only between Native Americans because nobody else would know what it means (& so there is no use in using it for them).

Neechie is not and has never ever been used as a slur, or a derogatory term, and most non Native Americans don't even know what it means (& slurs are exonymys, so how could it be a slur if the word doesn't even mean anything derogatory, & outside groups didn't come up with it, and don't even know what it means?). The only way I can assume people thought this was a slur was because of that book, and the authors of that book added it because they were ignorant of Native American culture, saw a word amongst Native Americans beginning with "N" that means "friend", and assumed it must be the same as the N word for Black Americans. Ask any Native American (& particularly any Ojibwe or Cree) & they'll tell you this word is not & has never been a slur, has not ever been used to refer to people in a derogatory way, & has never been anything close to even being a swear word or a bad word. Artisticthunderbird (talk) 20:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

The citations says is was used as a slur. See this. And this book from 1967 says the same and mentions that it means friend. This one also and mentions that Indians use it among themselves. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:04, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Someone please correct the 'translation' part of the "Schluchtenscheißer" entry.

"Schluchtenscheißer" does not mean 'person shitting in a cave' but 'person shitting in a ravine'.

"Schlucht f (genitive Schlucht, plural Schluchten or (poetic) Schlüchte) canyon, chasm, gorge, ravine"

The german word for 'cave' is instead 'Höhle' and has no relation to 'Schlucht'(singular of 'Schluchten').

Done. Google translate agrees with you. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

the entry is still saying "defecating in a cave"? D3in3n83nutz3rn4m3n (talk) 20:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

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"Yankee"

I think the description of this word could be improved.

The article lists this as being a slur used by Dutch speakers and then elaborates on some other uses. I think the use by southerners against northerners and the use by people outside the US against people from the US should be their own categories, as these are two different meanings, similar to how other words are divided when they are used in different places to mean different things. Whether it counts as an ethnic slur specifically is probably up for debate, but assuming it should be here I think it could be better.

Its also odd to only explicitly cite Latin America as a use against US Americans when this is used almost everywhere to my knowledge.

(as an aside, I think 'People from the United States' is more correct than 'Americans' to describe the targets and words like Пиндос(pindos) should also be described this way)

I might rewrite this as:

Targets: People from the United States

First applied by the Dutch colonists of New Amsterdam to Connecticuters and then to other residents of New England, 'Yankee' and derived terms like the Spanish yanqui or Japanese yankī are used internationally, often mockingly, to refer to Americans and American influence. The phrase "Yankee go home" has been used as a slogan against American imperialism in Latin America, Asia, and Europe. Most linguists agree that the origin is Dutch, possibly from Janke ("Johnny") or a dialectical variant of Jan Kaas ("John Cheese").

Targets: Northerners of the United States

Used in the American Civil War by Confederates as a derisive term for northerners, the term is still used today in the United States as an informal and sometimes pejorative word for people from the northeast, particularly New England.

I am new to contributing to Wikipedia so I won't make these edits myself on a page that I imagine is fairly contested, but if people agree with my changes I will work on tracking down references. Cyrusabyrd (talk) 08:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Reliable sources

The sources used for this article are strange, and don't even cite many of the terms as a slur. 'Russkie' for example is only described in Lexico as 'informal, derogatory', is that enough to qualify as a slur? Many other sources state it is a term to describe an ethnic Russian without any negative subtext PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:43, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

I oppose removing. A derogatory word used to refer to a particular ethnic would be a slur. The "-skie" suffix clearly mocks Russian names that end with "-ский". Are there other entries you feel are poorly supported? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

This is not an argument for or against it being a slur, but the "-skie" suffix is probably because the word is taken from the Russian word for "Russian", "Русский"(Ruskiy). I don't claim to know if this word counts as a slur and there are other slurs that come from an endonym like this, I just disagree that the word is mocking Russian names. Cyrusabyrd (talk) 14:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2024

I will add few ethic slurs used in Mongolia. Since Russian invasion of Ukraine, people of Mongolia have divided into two parts, those who supports Russia or US. People use these slurs to fight against each other over social media mostly on ikon.mn : 1. Орк(Ork) used by Mongolians against Russians 2. Анусник(Anusnik) used by Mongolians against US 3. Хуяа(Khuya) used by Mongolians against Chinese 4. Уяа/Укр(Uya/Ukr) used by Mongolians against Ukrainian 5. Балиар нус (Baliar nus) this word is pronounced almost the same as the country name Belarus, used by Mongolians against Belarus MunkhOrgil13 (talk) 08:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Bestagon ⬡ 12:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Svedu

Finnish slur against swedish people 2001:14BA:4ACB:4200:29F9:D505:D818:261F (talk) 05:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

I found citations that say it is slang, but none that say it is a slur. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2024

I would like to expand this directory by add a new word in it. The contents are as follows:

Term - Brishiters Origin - South Asia (Especially India & Pakistan) Targets - British People Notes - Used by mostly by English speaking people of the subcontinent. The term is widely used for mainland Britishers. The term is quiet common & frequent on internet. The Maelstorm 40K (talk) 11:56, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. A brief search on Google didn't turn up any valid mentions of the term. Liu1126 (talk) 13:30, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2024

Add "Cornstarch Crusader" to W as a slur to white people Wikihowvillian (talk) 17:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 19:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Dirty savage is a slur.

It was a slur like the N word but used to discribe first nations people 137.186.18.199 (talk) 14:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

It is also used to describe any group of people perceived as primitive and inferior. It is a generic insult not specifically an ethnic slur. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:57, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Then describe it as such. Just because it doesn't single out a particular race derogatorily doesn't mean it's not a racial slur. It does single out one's own race as superior when used (as you just pointed out), so it's still a racial slur. 2601:19E:8280:3050:CC6D:700A:593E:A117 (talk) 17:43, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

You are incorrect. Source: I’m an expert on slurs 2600:1012:B10F:3AAC:F5A5:3E32:148B:4E09 (talk) 21:30, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps that makes it merely, an insult. It could be on another list, along with "dirty rat". Drsruli (talk) 01:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)