Talk:List of federal subjects of Russia by population
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Merge or delete?
editThis seems redundent with Federal subjects of Russia. Cheezerman 05:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- Update: I'm an idiot Cheezerman 05:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- No need to be so harsh on yourself :) Best of luck.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 06:18, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
editThere is a move discussion in progress which affects this page. Please participate at Talk:Federal subjects of Russia - Requested move and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 18:00, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Wikidata verification
editThe population of Russia listed in "current Wikidata" can be verified using:
Array.prototype.slice.call($("table")[1].childNodes[2].childNodes).filter(function(v){return v.tagName === "TR"}).slice(1).map(function(v){return Number(v.childNodes[13].childNodes[0].textContent.replace(/,/g,""))}).reduce(function(pv, cv) { return pv + cv; }, 0)
in the JavaScript console. This will calculate the sum of all federal subjects. If the sum does not equal listed population of Russia (which also comes from Wikidata), something is wrong. --Ysangkok (talk) 22:30, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Similar population/size trivia
editThe parenthetical countries of approximately the same size need to be removed. This information is not germane. It is mere noise. Worse than simply beside the point, it is shoehorned in to columns with clear content and relevance. If the data were important enough to be included, it would merit its own column. But it is not. It is confusing and impertinent. Regulov (talk) 08:38, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Inclusion of Crimea and Sevastopol
edit@Volunteer Marek: I'm not sure what your end goal is here. You're removing sourced information from this page with no reason. The very nature of this article means it should only need to be included in the 2021 Russian census in order to be listed here, which Crimea and Sevastopol are. Your initial edit summary also wasn't very constructive: "Stop trying to legitimize brutal aggression and illegal land grabs" is not a very helpful edit summary, especially for an edit seemingly made for no reason other than WP:IDONTLIKEIT Serafart (talk) (contributions) 05:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Just because Russia conducted a census in these places does not make them part of Russia "de facto" or otherwise. Minimum here is that the list explains the situation of these areas and note that these are occupied areas of Ukraine. Volunteer Marek 06:09, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Then it would be a much better solution to add such a note rather than removing data from the table in your attempt to right great wrongs. Serafart (talk) (contributions) 16:08, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Serafart, you declare on your page that you support independence of land considered to be part of Georgia. I am not sure if this Wikipedia is the right place to implement your agenda. "a partially recognized state claimed by Georgia". Xx236 (talk) 09:17, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- No I don't. I declare that I am interested in Abkhazia. I'm not sure how that is in any way relevant, however, to the discussion of an article on the results of the Russian census. Serafart (talk) (contributions) 16:09, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
@Mathglot: I'm not sure why you are removing this information after another user restored it. As this is a list based off of the Russian census results, and the 2021 Russian census is clearly cited, I am not sure how you can claim it is not properly cited. Serafart (talk) (contributions) 16:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- The question is WHY should it be based on Russian census results? Even putting everything else aside, that's a WP:PRIMARY issue. Volunteer Marek 01:06, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Because that’s the standard for other countries lists of administrative divisions by population, and shouldn’t be disregarded here just because some of the territories are disputed. See List of U.S. states and territories by population (from US Census Bureau), List of Chinese administrative divisions by population (from National Bureau of Statistics), List of Ukrainian oblasts and territories by population (Ukrstat) for examples of this being the standard on enwiki. Serafart (talk) (contributions) 02:58, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
WRONG DATA
editIt is obvious that the table presented is wrong When someone actually use the link provided the data is 146424729...and not the number presented If the witer does not want to use the official data is one thing...But falsification of the data from the source is another and is centainly not 'encyclopedical' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.54.65.222 (talk) 18:43, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Bottom two lists
editThe second list has four out of seven columns which deal with old data, and the third list is entirely old data. As the top list is sortable, there doesn't seem to be any reason to keep the second list. And data tables with more than one or two year columns seems like indiscriminate data collection to me. Wizmut (talk) 05:38, 18 December 2023 (UTC)