Talk:List of fictional countries in the Americas

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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Sapphorain in topic Removed OR map

Removed OR map

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I have removed one map, as reproduced here, supposed to describe the geopolitical world of The Man in the High Castle. It is minutely more precise than what the book actually contains and is almost entirely speculative. I replaced it by the only map available in Commons which is not involving original research: a map of the territory of the United States as it is described in the book.--Sapphorain (talk) 08:56, 13 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

 
Map of the world, including the partitioned former United States, as depicted in The Man in the High Castle.
Below is the partitioned US map mentioned last year.
I must admit my former assertion according to which this map is not WP:OR is too optimistic. As it is a plausible approximation I still think it is acceptable in WP; I would however not object if it were removed. I gathered below the significant information the book provides regarding the borders of the four states drawn in this map.
PSA: This is the most correct part of the map, consisting of «  California, Oregon, Washington and part of Nevada » (Chapter 1). The «  part of Nevada » is however not further described in the book.
RMS: One can infer from comments in Chapters 3, 6 and 9 that Colorado, Wyoming, Utah and the Eastern part of Nevada (still without more precision) are parts of RMS. Nebraska is probably also part of RMS, Omaha being mentioned as « the last outpost of the former plutocratic U.S. publishing industry » (Chapter 8). But this map also includes a number of other states (Idaho, Montana, the Dakotas, Kansas, Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas) which are never even mentioned in the book.
U.S.: The book only mentions that Philadelphia, Boston (Chapter 3), New York and Baltimore (Chapter 6) are within its borders.
The South: The state is mentioned (Chapters 1 and 2), but the book doesn’t mention specifically any part of it. Its borders on the map are pure speculation.--Sapphorain (talk) 08:53, 12 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
 
An attempt to draw plausible borders of the United States as partitioned in four states by Imperial Japan and the German Reich in The Man in the High Castle (1962), based on the sparse relevant information available in the book:
  Pacific States of America
  Rocky Mountain States
  United States of America
  The South