Talk:List of holidays by country
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editummmm i was just wondering if anyone knows if thrr is any other holidays in france if so please post
The U.S. holidays are pretty messed up. The other page Holidays in the U.S. is much better. For example, election day is not a holiday for federal employees and Columbus Day usually follows the Monday Holiday Act, which is described much better in the other page. I deleted the election day stuff, but needs more work by someone surer of the topic than I. Also, I'm not sure what makes Loyalty Day an official holiday if it is no longer celebrated. Scarykitty 06:44, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I think all mentions of common holidays should be removed from here, e.g. New Year's Day, Christmas, Easter, Labor day, etc. --Joy [shallot] 21:31, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I disagree with this. New Year's Day is a week later in countries with dominant orthodox churches. Labour day is on different days varying by state/territory in Australia. Also, you would have to look in two places to get a full list for a country. Let's leave it the way it is.
UK Holidays
editEaster Sunday, is, er, a Sunday, so surely should not be included in a list of public holidays? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.137.5.129 (talk) 09:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
US Holidays
editWhat the heck is Fishy Bill Day?! I spent 10 years in Virginia schools (second through twelfth), and I have never heard of a Fishy Bill Day, much less ever celebrate or otherwise observe it. My child is attending a Virginia Public School, and he has never mentioned a Fishy Bill, nor any of his teachers. Unless someone can provide some sort of proof to such, this is a hoax.
Along the same lines, "Say 'Hi' to Joe Day"? Give me a break.
I have turned on several of my foreign students to Wikipedia to help them do research on things in America that they might seem strange or different. Wikipedia can be and is an important resource. I wished people wouldn't muck it up. --Asacan 17:17, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
I agree - it seems that every single holiday has been mentioned for the States, and some ridiculous ones, whereas other places simple get their public holidays. This page is a mess. France could theoretically follow suit and therefore have 365 saints days. The US has made this page non-consistent.Googly75 (talk) 08:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Mardi Gras
editNot sure the exact date, but it should probably be on the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.115.86.67 (talk) 16:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Portugal holidays
editThe link from the following portuguese holiday:
October 5 - Proclamation of the Republic
leads to the article "Easter Proclamation" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proclamation_of_the_Republic). I'm pretty sure, that is not the reason people in Portugal celebrate this day ;-)
Bulgaria holidays
editThe "Army Day" link leads to the article "Indian Army Day" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Day).
A mess
editThere is a problem with holiday lists: every country has a public holiday list but few have national or religious or such; and 'holidays in...' redirects to 'public holidays in' page. I'd suggest removing all 'public' words from the titles and categories, to give the articles a wider scope.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 15:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I support the removal of the word 'public' from the title of pages about "Holidays in Country X". Not every holiday is a public holiday. "Public holidays in Country X" can be a subcategory with the main category "Holidays in Country X". --PFHLai 18:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, exactly.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 04:43, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- Support, with case by case tact this seems to be of worthy effect to the category names too (propose deletion of "Category:Public holidays" and renaming of "categories:Public holidays in Country X" and "categories:Public holidays by country"). i am a little concerned that an act like despecifying from "public" may open the flood gates to all holidays possibly observed in each country, making the established or "legal holidays" seem less significant in comparison. thus some care need be taken within each of the articles to differentiate. USA has already done this and is in need of the titular change.Some thing 17:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- also propose that this thread be moved to the Wikiproject:Holiday discussion page.Some thing 17:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Cleanup: use {{main}} templates
editSomeone needs to change all the "For more information, see [[Public holidays in country_name]]" statements at the top of each section to "{{main|Public holidays in country_name}}. —Psychonaut 18:41, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Religious holidays
editReligious holidays which may be celebrated by some residents in a country, but not by all, should not be included in "holidays by country". Possibly sections by religion of "holidays which are celebrated by <members of religion> living in most countries" could be added. For example, Hannukah and Eid are not holidays in the United States, Christmas is not a holiday in many countries, and so on. This article would then help to answer the practical problem "is <date> a working day in this country?". The addition of a religious holidays section would help as some organisations and people will not be working on those days even if not a national holiday. Pol098 (talk) 16:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
April fool's day?
editSurely the US section is using a different definition of the word "holiday" from the rest of the country sections. Is there anyone in any US state who takes April Fool's Day as a holiday? Or even the Vernal Equinox? These are festivals, maybe, (or some of them are) but not holidays in the sense of public holidays. Rachel Pearce (talk) 21:00, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
- This is an incomplete page, so US just happens to have extremely minor holidays. If you know in depth about the others feel free to add them as wellfor other countries. This page is by no means complete. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 03:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- It should not be completed. These are redundant entries that are already listed in Public holidays in the United States (as provided as well in the link of the united states section in this article). If an edit happened in the other page, duplicate entries in this page won't help. Plus, there are hallmark holiday and awareness holidays which is not considered real public holidays.--Rochelimit (talk) 01:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's a question for this page as a whole, which seems split between two approaches:
- Provide links to public holiday articles for each specific country
- Provide lists of public holidays for each specific country, along with the above link.
- There are advantages and demerits to both; the first method is easier to implement and there's only ONE list that needs updating, so there's no redundancy. The second method is more user-friendly in that the user is able to compare different countries by scrolling up and down the list rather than opening each link individually. A possibility to make the second method work better could be to use <onlyinclude></onlyinclude> syntax to make it possible to transclude the holiday list into this article. Or, perhaps a Template:Public holidays in Countrystan-style approach might work too, and that could be transcluded in both the list of holidays by country AND the individual country's holiday article.
- -- Joren (talk) 03:11, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Having only one list to update seems like the way to go. Or better yet, maybe have no lists, but have the pages devoted to the individual holidays also include (invisible?) Wikipedia categories (or similar) that place those holidays in lists for the worlds, countries, and subdivisions (e.g., US states) where they are celebrated. I'm not an expert enough to achieve it, but it would be nice if, through some category-like magic on the Martin Luther King, Jr. Day page, something like "Martin Luther King, Jr. Day (January 17)" automatically appeared (in date order) on a page devoted to the "category" of "New York State holidays in 2011". Likewise, it would appear for other states (and countries?) and for other years. —Quantling (talk | contribs) 18:31, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- I prefer Joren's option 1 than option 2, that is providing only the links and removing all list of holidays . Even I actually don't prefer this option, as I prefer removing this entire article. Comparison is not an excuse. Easy comparing can be created by making a table, not a list. You can even compare articles by placing side by side your browsing windows, so easy comparing is not really the main reason why we should keep this article/page improved.
- If people do maintain this article, you wouldn't see un-updated list like 2009 Bangladesh, typo error like Australia or inconsistent styling like Turkmenistan. Moreover, some people prefer to mention the "moving holidays" as it is when it was written at the given year, while others prefer to mention the requirement of the holiday: e.g. first thursday, first monday, etc. This can be misleading: For example, if you see Liberia in this article, you would think that Decoration Day is celebrated on March 10, but this is wrong, Decoration Day is celebrated on the second Wednesday of March. This is listed correctly on the more official link, Public holidays in Liberia, but not in this article, because the author of Liberia prefer to mention the holiday as it is during the year he wrote the holiday. This also happened in United States, and to make it worst, United States holidays written in here are mere obsolete "Hallmark holidays". This article being full of error, I don't think we should continue updating this article, as this article only becoming a mere redundancy and an incorrect one.
- Although I have to admit that the fact that some countries doesn't have their own "Public Holidays" article, e.g. Bhutan and the Bahamas and probably many countries in Africa, means that this article provides a safe haven for these holidays.
- So the more arbitrative solution for this articel is too wait until all countries are provided with their own "Public Holidays in ..." wiki article. When this is achieved, I will remove this article. So let's wait, for the sake of improving Wikipedia's quality.
- Regarding the Liberia error, I will wait until a week, if somebody didn't do anything, I will remove Liberia list of holidays (provided that Liberia already has Public holidays in Liberia article).--Rochelimit (talk) 04:12, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Having only one list to update seems like the way to go. Or better yet, maybe have no lists, but have the pages devoted to the individual holidays also include (invisible?) Wikipedia categories (or similar) that place those holidays in lists for the worlds, countries, and subdivisions (e.g., US states) where they are celebrated. I'm not an expert enough to achieve it, but it would be nice if, through some category-like magic on the Martin Luther King, Jr. Day page, something like "Martin Luther King, Jr. Day (January 17)" automatically appeared (in date order) on a page devoted to the "category" of "New York State holidays in 2011". Likewise, it would appear for other states (and countries?) and for other years. —Quantling (talk | contribs) 18:31, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's a question for this page as a whole, which seems split between two approaches:
- It should not be completed. These are redundant entries that are already listed in Public holidays in the United States (as provided as well in the link of the united states section in this article). If an edit happened in the other page, duplicate entries in this page won't help. Plus, there are hallmark holiday and awareness holidays which is not considered real public holidays.--Rochelimit (talk) 01:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Outdated list for People's Republic of China
editThe list of PRC public holidays is outdated. They changed the holidays act a year ago.—Gniw (Wing) (talk) 15:00, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
SPAIN!
editSince the country list looks like it's sorted by country name, how comes that Spain FOLLOWS Sri-Lanka (and not vice-versa)??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.221.69.213 (talk) 13:32, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
we need a list of songs about holidays
editLots of Christmas stuff. Little of others.Civic Cat (talk) 01:12, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
US holidays
editAre all those holidays actually "celebrated" as a holiday? Summer Solstice etc. ?
At that rate we will end up with hundreds for each country... Chaosdruid (talk) 09:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Lists or links
editI just deleted some of the lists which duplicate the links to Public holidays in X (country). It seems to me that the list should either have all countries' full lists or none. None seems to have been the consensus earlier. If there's a consensus (or no objection) to continue the pattern of no lists, only links I'll delete the other lists. Thank you, SchreiberBike talk 20:47, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- I had hoped to see the comparison between countries, but I was disappointed. This article contains mostly links, doesn't make any sense. If you only want to list the links, it shouldn't be an "article" but a "category".--2.246.0.51 (talk) 21:00, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
- I object. This is largely a "for this country, go here" thing. This creates a situation where one is wading through what appears to be a block of incomplete countries, except for like the last one (Gibraltar). It's very sloppy-looking. 69.161.99.11 (talk) 16:53, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Number of holidays
editIt'll be interesting to know how many holidays there are per country. –HTD 11:28, 3 January 2015 (UTC)