Talk:List of house types
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Farmhouse
editIs there any reason why farmhouse (which would need disambiguating) is missing? <KF> 01:09, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
If someone would like to add farmhouse, please use Farmhouse (building) as I have made Farmhouse a disambig page. There is currently no article, but hopefully now that there is a clear page for it, someone will fix that. CyborgTosser (Only half the battle) 06:05, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Oh, I see there is already a description for farmhouse. I will link it. CyborgTosser (Only half the battle) 06:10, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Merger discussion
editUser:Michael Hardy has suggested a merge of List of house styles amd List of house types. As written now, there is some duplication between the lists. But look at the corresponding house types and house styles category, they are quite different. The types category includes the general types of houses like cottages, igloos, huts, etc. while the styles category includes specific architectural styles... Italianate, California Bungalow, McMansion. The corresponding list for house types doesn't perfectly reflect this distinction, while the list for house styles, in my opinion, does.
I don't think merging is a good idea. List of house types could possibly be rewritten to be a more general list of the basic types of houses seen in various cultures, and house styles should remain a list of specific architectural styles and philosophies seen in single-family homes of industrialized countries, perhaps being retitled to something more to that effect. But a merge would be a bad idea.
Hopefully some discussion can occur here to gather a consensus. --W.marsh 21:44, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, I missed this section when I wrote the above note on organizational categories. I agree, there is a problem with merging 'types' and 'styles', since one of the important functions of an encyclopaedia is to clarify the distinctions between such categories. I suspect it'll become very complex if the primary division is along cultural lines. It'd be easier to do it along typological lines on the basis of a) function and b) spatial arrangement, and then note in which cultures or places each functional or spatial type is known to have occurred. Then, each type could also be aggregated again via the category system to answer the questions of someone wanting to know what types of housing occur in any givern place or culture - though perhaps there will need to be a historic dimension here as well. Seems like no-one has been concerned about this for 18 months!!! CheersEyedubya 02:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Shack
editYES! Shacks are awesome. 24.17.32.26 18:15, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Stilt House
editI was looking for the English translation of "palafita" and ended up here, but I couldn't find it. Then I've continued looking for it, and found it somewhere else. So, here is a suggestion for the list: Stilt House (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stilt_house).
underground houses and earth sheltered houses
editWould underground houses and earth sheltered houses be a type of house listed on this page?
- Igloo is in this list, so the list includes ice sheltered houses. So, to be logical, this type should also include earth sheltered houses ;-) Samokk
Travel trailer
editOn this list "Travel trailer" is listed as an alternative to "Caravan" in "British English". I have to say that despite being a Brit all my life this is the first time I have ever encountered this term, which sounds (to a British ear) to be utterly American, and is most definitely not in common usage among us Brits!
Front House
editThe acticle should say more about what a Front House is.
Organisational categories
editThis list is amazing! I never knew there were so many types. I guess I need to get out more. However, there are some serious problems to do with the way this list is organised. Its my intention to attempt a major revamp of this page when I have time, but before I do so, I'd like to justify my rationale and obtain some feedback from others.
I believe the page needs to have a more logical and consistent system for organising it so that it is not only more user-friendly, but also, makes a genuine contribution to the way users understand the topic at hand. At the moment, it is premised on a primary division between 'detached housing' and all other forms of housing (which it calls flats etc), but this is not the way it actually works - i.e. some forms of attached housing are in the former category. Moreover, some of the housing types listed would be better referred to as 'styles' rather than types, since they refer to decorative elements rather than morphological or spatial aspects of housing. In architecture and urban design, the word 'type' has fairly specific meanings = it refers to either the function of a building or its spatial arrangement, not what it looks like (its style). Also, scale is an issue, but this is blurred by the current ordering system. A peasant's cottage is a detached house, and so is an English stately home (usually, frequently, but not always). Another issue is a blurring of forms of tenure with spatial/functional issues. Rental housing ('project homes/public housing/private rental/community housing/social housing etc.) can be any type of housing, detached, semi-attached, fully attached, low-, medium- or high-rise. I guess there's a problem with title of this page as well - not all of the entries are houses (i.e. its a list of 'house types'), though they are all forms of dwelling.
Please let me know what you think. Cheers. Eyedubya 01:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
So, how do you plan to refactor the page ? Will you extract the architectural styles out of this page ? Or in some specific section ? If you explain the main sections/philosophy, I can help by reading the specific articles and sorting the types into your categories. Also, is it possible to find the list of architectural styles + types used in the world today Samokk
- Good questions. Is there a single list of architectural styles in the world today? No, there are a number of lists that would need to be drawn on as the basis for a WP list of styles. There are styles that can be applied across different types of buildings (such as 'international style', 'British Hi-Tech', 'postmodern classical' or 'Victorian Gothic revival', and there are styles which are usually limited to certain building types (such as 'Queen Anne' or 'Brownstone', which only apply to housing as far as I am aware). But there is a big difference between types of building in terms of their function/use (factory, theatre, hospital, residential, entertainment etc), the style in which those buildings are designed, and the type of shape (or 'formal'/'morphological/spatial type etc) that the building is. So I guess, I'd be suggesting 3 categories: a) Architectural styles b) Types of buildings by function/use; c) types of building by spatial arrangement. Each of these 3 broad categories would have sub-categories of course, and there would be overlaps, but it ought to be clearer than what is currently there. Eyedubya 12:50, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- In terms of architectural styles, there are historic styles (see Banister Fletcher's 'a history of architecture for example), and then there are a range of styles that are in contemporary use: not all of the current styles are contemporary, many are revivalist or (prejoratively) pastiche styles. In terms of building functions, it might be useful to base it on a standard classification used by planning schemes (maybe ...), with a big group for 'mixed use/hybrid' buildings. As for the spatial types - there is a big distinction to be made between the architectural type and the urban typology. The former may be applied to buildings regardless of their setting, the latter in terms of the way their configuration contributes to the creation of urban space. Is this helping move this along? Eyedubya 13:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Should haussmanian be listed here ?
editI'm not sure whether haussmanian buildings[1] are a type or a style, but shouldn't it be listed somewhere ? Samokk
- yes and no: Baron Haussmann reorganized the urban design of Paris in a major way that goes beyond mere matters of 'style' and 'type' in terms of housing - there is a whole WP page devoted to him already. However, from a typological point of view, 'Haussmannian' housing is a form of Perimeter block (yes, I note there is no page yet for this). So, whether Haussmann gets a mention in this list or not depends on how it ends up being re-organized (see above) Eyedubya 12:39, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- I see there is no page for Perimeter block, but there is one for city block. Is that the same thing ? Samokk
A city block is land in an urban ara bounded by circulation routes, typically one or more allotments surrounded by streets. A perimeter block is a form of development of a city block, where the buildings are sited on or close to the street boundary, creating a street wall and leaving the centre of the block largely open.Natalex (talk) 08:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Perimeter blocks are an important component of urban design, and they are not the same as a 'city block', and so I'd agree, there needs to be an article called Perimeter block. Eyedubya (talk) 09:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Category:Urban studies and planning Category:Architecture Category:Housing Category:Urban design
Link-detached
editI'm not sure where it should go, but I think link-detached should be on here somewhere.
I'm not sure about anywhere else, but the house I grew up in, and which is not unfamiliar around the UK, is a row of houses with the garages being the link between them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tequilatrinity (talk • contribs) 08:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Define the word type
editI find the word type here needs a definition. What is the difference between a house type and style? Because a building has a roof shape such as a hip or saltbox does that make it a certain type of house? Does it's use define it as a type such as farmhouse? In my study of historic barn types my peers and I treat the word type as only something which is widely used and persists for generations, not the work of a particular builder or his apprentice(s), there are many barns of no specific type. Thanks. Jim Derby (talk) 15:25, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
"Barndominium"
editThis is a rare local word -Texican, to be precise, associated with a limited number of pole-barn and steel frame barn builders who fit them out partially as housing. Throughout the rest of Anglophone North America, the term isn't used much, although similar buildings are in evry rural spot I've seen in the US and Canada. It has a linked article; a very poor, equivocating rotten little article that lumps together high-end properties which share, in condominium, trails and a stable, on the one hand, with metal sheds with a house inside of 'em, on the other. This is a minor, regional usage, and close to commercial spam. It should go, and probably so should the article. Anmccaff (talk) 17:43, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
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Stilt houses
editHello - I am wondering if a new section on the stilt house type is relevant to this article. Netherzone (talk) 23:33, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Colonial house
editShould a Colonial house architecture be listed here. Examples include Dutch Colonial, Spanish Colonial,etc Jared L 9999 (talk) 18:06, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Four-plus-one
edithttps://drloihjournal.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-facts-about-four-plus-one-41-mid.html I'm looking for this Chicago housing style in here, but can't find it? Victor Grigas (talk) 23:52, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- You could add it to the article yourself, if you have reliable sources to support the information. Unfortunately, the website you linked is a blog, which, as a self-published source, is generally not accepted as a reliable source. Are you aware of any other sources discussing the four plus 1 style? - Donald Albury 00:40, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Type vs. style
editHouse, like any building, can only be categorized by type, never by style; style is something which can be applied to any type of house and building - this is what they teach you in arch school. However, I noticed that this common mistake in categorization is prevalent online, sometime even in some official org. lingo. (There is entire Guide for house style printed by historical preservation office at Longbeach.org - and since they, historical preservation office, must have bunch of experts in art and arch with them, it is mindboggling.) ౪ Santa ౪99° 18:29, 16 October 2022 (UTC)