Talk:List of inventions and discoveries of the Indus Valley Civilisation

Orphaned references in List of inventions and discoveries of the Indus Valley Civilisation

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of inventions and discoveries of the Indus Valley Civilisation's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "singh":

• From Alamgirpur: Singh, Upinder (2008). A history of ancient and early medieval India: from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. p. 214. ISBN 9788131711200.
• From Daimabad: Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India: From the Stone Age to the 12th Century. Delhi: Pearson Education. pp. 229–233. ISBN 978-81-317-1120-0.
• From Kerala-no-dhoro: Singh, Upinder (2008). A history of ancient and early medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. p. 146. ISBN 9788131711200.
• From Bhirrana: Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. pp. 109, 145, 153. ISBN 9788131711200.
• From Great Bath, Mohenjo-daro: Singh, Upinder (2008). A history of ancient and early medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. pp. 149–150. ISBN 978-81-317-1120-0.
• From Sutkagan Dor: Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. p. 167. ISBN 9788131711200.
• From Dholavira: Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. p. 167. ISBN 9788131711200.
• From Loteshwar: Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. p. 85. ISBN 9788131711200.
• From Babar Kot: Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. p. 222. ISBN 9788131711200.
• From Banawali: Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. pp. 152–153, 171, 179. ISBN 9788131711200.
• From Shortugai: Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. p. 169. ISBN 9788131711200.
• From Sanitation of the Indus Valley Civilisation: Singh, Upinder (2008). A history of ancient and early medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. pp. 151–155. ISBN 978-81-317-1120-0.
• From Kunal, Haryana: Singh, Upinder (2008). A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India : from the Stone Age to the 12th century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. pp. 109, 145–6. ISBN 9788131711200.
• From Hulas: Singh, Upinder (2008). History of Ancient and Early Medieval India: From the Stone Age to the 12th Century. New Delhi: Pearson Education. p. 214. ISBN 978-81-317-1120-0.

Reference named "bbc":

• From Iran: "Under Persian rule". BBC. Retrieved 16 December 2009.
• From Dentistry: "Stone age man used dentist drill". BBC News. 6 April 2006. Retrieved 24 May 2010.
• From Harappa: BBC, UK website. "Earlist writing found". BBC News. Retrieved 17 July 2012.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:35, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned references in List of inventions and discoveries of the Indus Valley Civilisation

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Reference named "ReferenceA":

• From Timeline of historic inventions: History Channel, Where Did It Come From? Episode: "Ancient China: Agriculture"
• From Bronze Age: Miller, Duncan E.; van der Merwe, Nikolaas J. (1994). "Early Metal Working in Sub-Saharan Africa: A Review of Recent Research". The Journal of African History. 35 (1): 1–36. doi:10.1017/s0021853700025949. JSTOR 182719.
• From List of Chinese inventions: Needham (1986), Volume 4, Part 1, 40–41.
• From List of British innovations and discoveries: Drug discovery: a history By Walter Sneader
• From Iran: А. Г. Булатова. Лакцы (XIX — нач. XX вв.). Историко-этнографические очерки. — Махачкала, 2000.
• From Timeline of United States inventions (1946–91): "Timeline of Computer History". Computer History Museum.
• From Kalibangan: B. B. Lal, India 1947–1997: New Light on the Indus Civilization
• From Pakistan: Scharfe, Hartmut; Bronkhorst, Johannes; Spuler, Bertold; Altenmüller, Hartwig (2002). Handbuch Der Orientalistik: India. Education in ancient India. p. 141. ISBN 978-90-04-12556-8.
• From List of Indonesian inventions and discoveries: Jill Forshee, Culture and customs of Indonesia, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2006. ISBN 0-313-33339-4, 237 pages
• From Scottish inventions and discoveries: The Dynamics of Victorian Business: Problems And Perspectives to the 1870s By Roy Church
• From Ghaggar-Hakra River: The ancient Indus Valley: new perspectives By Jane McIntosh

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:56, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Recent additions are dubious

Some don't claim discovery/invention. Some of these seem copied from elsewhere. I can't check the sources for "protractor", but I also can't find any sources. Doug Weller talk 14:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I looked at the first one (weighted balance) and the cited source clearly gives earlier dates for Egypt so I've removed that. Should we go over them one by one or revert the whole lot and let the editor adding them make their case on the talk page?--regentspark (comment) 15:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

The additions certainly need to be reviewed. For example, simply at a spot check, the new entry for Stamp seal says "stamps were first used in Indus valley civilization in 4th millennium BCE" citing this Met Museum page. However, (1) the source doesn't support the 4th millennium dating (it only gives the vague "ca. 2600–1900 B.C." range), and (2) there is no claim that the IVC were the first to use such seals. I would support RP's suggestion of BRD. Abecedare (talk) 17:49, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I have looked at some of the references briefly and it seems that additions are not entirely accurate. I think the user, at times (more often than not), has taken the liberty when interpreting some references. In addition, the quality of some of the references is WP:SPS. In general, I support the mass removal of newly added content post this version. Adamgerber80 (talk) 19:48, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Agreed—needles can't have been invented in 3000 BC. They we were well known in 25,000 BC. DenverCoder9 (talk) 21:42, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I've removed many outright false claims like, including dentistry (!) (well attributed pre-Bronze age)

In addition, there are many dubious claims, and most not properly sourced. Many claims state that there were technologies used by the IVC, but not that they invented them (instead of adopting them from earlier or neighboring civilizations). DenverCoder9 (talk) 21:55, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

What technology was invented by the indus people to carry their goods from the farm to the market

Uuuu 2400:ADCC:16B:3700:F812:1754:92D1:1411 (talk) 11:49, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

English Bond

There's a claim that IVC invented English bond. To claim invention, there needs to be evidence it wasn't imported from elsewhere. But I'm having a hard time finding evidence of English bond architecture in IVC. Can someone find a citation? DenverCoder9 (talk) 22:02, 22 May 2023 (UTC)