Talk:List of microbreweries
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editAfd: Nominated for deletion; see List of microbreweries — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aspro (talk • contribs) 21:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
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editThe discussion was closed with a keep result. NorthAmerica1000 04:48, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
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Criteria for inclusion
editIt seems that the consensus at the two AfDs for this article is that only 'notable' craft/microbreweries should be included. Any thoughts on the criteria? With a nod to meeting WP:NORG. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:33, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Assuming it survives AFD, I agree that only notable entries should be listed. So per WP:LISTCOMPANY we would be saying that non-notable entries are explicity not allowed. user:Clarityfiend recently recently trimmed the list to only blue linked entries. Any entries without articles would need to have sufficient reliable sources to show that the entry would clearly qualify for a Wikipedia article if one were written (and that's a tough job for something like this where we don't have defined "presumed notability" criteria). Meters (talk) 05:48, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- An additional criterion for inclusion is the definition of "micro". Sometimes this term is used without discretion, and where it is more defined, it can still vary by country. The top of this page currently uses the US definition of 15,000 barrels per year, or 475,000 gallons. Breweries that produce more beer than that should not be included. – Broccoli & Coffee (Oh hai) 05:53, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Of course. Seems reasonable to use one particular definition rather than differing national definitions I have no opinion of which country's definition we should use (no objection to the US number), just that if be sourced and listed as a criterion for list inclusion. Meters (talk) 18:16, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- On that I disagree. We should use national definitions IF available, and US until a national definition is found. It would be strange if a Korean or Polish microbrewery was to be held to US standards/definitions, and if they pass their own country's definitions but not the US one they should be included here. (This is a half-moot point and we are unlikely to find many such alternative definitions, but if they are found they should be respected just as the US one). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:05, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm happy to consider multiple definitions as long as we clearly define what we are doing and the definitions are sourced, but it seems a bit odd (and awkward) to include breweries of a certain size from countries that have a definition larger than the US's, but exclude breweries of the same size from countries that do not have a definition. Meters (talk) 04:18, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- On that I disagree. We should use national definitions IF available, and US until a national definition is found. It would be strange if a Korean or Polish microbrewery was to be held to US standards/definitions, and if they pass their own country's definitions but not the US one they should be included here. (This is a half-moot point and we are unlikely to find many such alternative definitions, but if they are found they should be respected just as the US one). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:05, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Of course. Seems reasonable to use one particular definition rather than differing national definitions I have no opinion of which country's definition we should use (no objection to the US number), just that if be sourced and listed as a criterion for list inclusion. Meters (talk) 18:16, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- An additional criterion for inclusion is the definition of "micro". Sometimes this term is used without discretion, and where it is more defined, it can still vary by country. The top of this page currently uses the US definition of 15,000 barrels per year, or 475,000 gallons. Breweries that produce more beer than that should not be included. – Broccoli & Coffee (Oh hai) 05:53, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Chart?
editWhile the alphabetical list is interesting, it would be more useful if the list could be presented in table format, where it could be sorted not only by brewery name, but by region, or by founder, or by year founded, year closed (if applicable); etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 (talk) 20:05, 8 March 2024 (UTC)