Talk:List of non-aligned Scouting organizations

Sections of article

I tried to separate the organizations into categories according to which ones are closely, loosely, or not associated with the Scout Movement. Some may not be in the best category so please look it over and make changes as necessary. --Jagz 00:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Woodcraft

I think the organization Woodcraft is no longer active (and the organization The Woodcraft Folk is active). --Jagz 09:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

There was never an organization called Woodcraft; it's an movement and it's still active in many countries and different organizations (eg Woodcraft League of the Czech Republic; Woodcraft League of the Slovak Republic; Forest School Camps; Germany, Poland, Chile). Most of it's organizations are small and do not maintain websites. --jergen

The Woodcraft article starts out, "Woodcraft was a recreational/educational program", past tense, implying it no longer exists. --Jagz 15:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Woodcraft is a terribly poor article; most relevant content is in Woodcraft Indians; it is tagged for merge since last November. --jergen 15:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Confused

I am confused here:

• What does "non-aligned" mean? Does it mean national Scout organizations that are not members of WOSM or WAGGS, even though they may be a member of another association such as WFIS? Where did the term "non-aligned" come from? A search for "non-aligned Scouting" returns hits only for Wikipedia an mirrors.
• Per the project scope, organizations such as the Pioneers are not considered to be Scouting or Scout-like.

--—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 12:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The term "non-aligned" was created by User:Wimvandorst for Non-aligned Scouting and Scout-like organisations.

In Germany, the distinction between "anerkannten" (recognised) and "nicht anerkannten" (non-recognised) Scouting organizations refers only to the recognition by WAGGGS and WOSM. There are about 20 more German Scouting organizations within WFIS, UISGE, CES etc, but you would refer to them as "nicht anerkannt" (non recognised); even if this is considered impolite.--jergen (talk) 13:22, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I vaguely recall some conversation on that during my years in Germany. To me, non-aligned would mean they are not part of an international association such as WOSM, WGSS, WFIS, CES or the like. Some of the NSOs listed here are working towards WOSM or WAGGS recognition and are listed in those member articles. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 13:49, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I always thougt that "non-aligned" referred to those organizations outside the mainstream Scouting/Guiding style defined by WOSM and WAGGGS membership. Scouting outside WOSM and WAGGGS has less than one million members compared to 38 million in the two major organizations.

It is difficult to categorize organizations working towards membership. WOSM names 29 countries as potential members - but it is not clear, if the national organizations real work towards membership, it's more like saying: "Scouting exists". The status of "working towards WAGGGS membership" has a far better definition and is close to WAGGGS membership - but not all organizations reach membership. --jergen (talk) 15:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

PS: The term "non-aligned" was not inventend by Wikipedians; it comes from this website [1]. --jergen (talk) 16:03, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

notability?

What defines "notability" for inclusion in that section of this article? Why not have a single list? ⇔ ChristTrekker 20:55, 7 March 2014 (UTC)