Talk:List of operas by Richard Strauss
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Venues in Dresden
editI believe the listed venues in Dresden (Hoftheater, Königliches Opernhaus, Semperoper) all refer to the same venue, and they all should be called "Semperoper"; see de:Semperoper. Michael Bednarek (talk) 08:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I'm almost certain they're all the same venue. Grove give Hoftheater for the 1901-1909 operas, then Dresden Königliches for Rosenkavalier, then Dresden Staatsoper for the 1924-1938 works - but I think they are referring to the changing name of the institution rather than the building itself. (According to Oxford the theatre became the Staatsoper in 1918.) Perhaps one way out of this would be put Hoftheater etc. in parentheses? --Kleinzach 09:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Alternatively, those other terms could all be pipe-linked to Semperoper, i.e. Hoftheater (
[[Semperoper|Hoftheater]]
). Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)- Well, I guess we only need one actual link to the Semperoper article. Incidentally we have a similar problem with the changing names of London theatres and it always confuses me. --Kleinzach 10:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- I completed my previous edit —which applied those piped links— without having seen your comment above. I think that providing these might explain to the reader the connection. Anyway, feel free to undo. —— I hope the column widths and table squeezability now work. Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:05, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Looks great - and the way you've done the Dresden refs is fine. Only problem is that only Rosenkavalier is Königliches. The earlier ones are Hoftheater, so I'll change those ones. --Kleinzach 13:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- I completed my previous edit —which applied those piped links— without having seen your comment above. I think that providing these might explain to the reader the connection. Anyway, feel free to undo. —— I hope the column widths and table squeezability now work. Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:05, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I guess we only need one actual link to the Semperoper article. Incidentally we have a similar problem with the changing names of London theatres and it always confuses me. --Kleinzach 10:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Alternatively, those other terms could all be pipe-linked to Semperoper, i.e. Hoftheater (
Genre language
editWouldn't the genre titles be more useful in English translation? Personally, I'm struggling with bürgliche Komödie mit sinfonischen Zwischenspielen! Furiens (talk) 00:40, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- This has been discussed before and it's been decided to use the original language because (1) opera genres are not used much in English and translations in English create hazy ambiguities, (2) this information is really for specialists. The example above, which I think Strauss meant as a joke, really just means a comedy (Komödie). --Kleinzach 00:57, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes I see your point, and I can't really think of a better alternative. A lot of the titles seem too specific to add to List of opera genres too. Would it be acceptable to footnote literal translations with a clause about the ambiguities, for the sake of non-specialists? I'll have a go soon. Furiens (talk) 18:41, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Conductors
editIt would be nice to have the conductors of the premier performances. Were they left out for a reason? it would be easy to add, since the pages for the individual operas have this information.Byronmercury (talk) 11:46, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
- This list follows a fairly standard format which is used for many of Lists of operas by composer. As you observe, readers can find that information readily at the works' articles. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:33, 10 July 2014 (UTC)