Talk:List of people with kidney stones/GA1

GA Review

I am "Quick Failing" this article, I'm afraid. It is a list, and therefore fails the Good article criteria. Lists are assessed at Wikipedia:Featured_lists, so do feel free to consider nominating it there. However, before you do so, please consider renaming the article: "kidney stone formers" gives no indication what the article is about (I had to follow the link to find out, and I still don't know what the title means). "List of kidney stone sufferers" might be more appropriate. In addition, the lead paragraph does not contain the title, as required at WP:LEAD. I suggest you read that guide carefully in order to improve the lead: this should contain a summary of the contents of the article. Another thing you will need to do before considering featured list status is to show why this list is notable, and not just a collection of trivia. Perhaps a source which can draw conclusions regarding the sufferers, or what impact it had on their lives? ie. why the kidney stone is notable; why WP needs to tell people about it. You might also want to consider increasing the number of incoming links: this article is almost an orphan. Consider also potential categories. This is not a "kidney disease", but a list of people suffering from a type of kidney disease. Interested people are unlikely to easily find this article.

On a positive note: this is a comprehensive and well referenced list, which has taken some time and effort to compile. Well done! I am sorry we cannot recognise it at GA, but I hope things go well for you at WP:FL. Gwinva (talk) 09:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. "Kidney stone sufferers" is an incorrect title as not everybody who forms a stone suffers discomfort. It also doesn't seem as neutral.—RJH (talk) 20:01, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough: just explain the title in the lead. Gwinva (talk) 20:44, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Whilst sufferer might be a slightly emotive (and therefore unencyclopedic) term, I'm not sure how you'd really know anyone had kidney stones unless they experienced discomfort from them? Granted a person may form them and never know, or form them and pass them untroubled, but is there actually anyone in that list to whom that applies, if so how did they know? and would it be notable anyway? In fact the article is mostly given over to pain and debilitation and the impact of renal colic on their lives, as you'd expect. In the absence of a better word, I'd say "sufferers" is poor but descriptive, whilst "formers" is rather ambiguous and possibly inaccurate. Apologies if I seem crotchety, I'm most definitely suffering! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.3.74.124 (talk) 17:32, 29 August 2012 (UTC)