Talk:List of places of worship in Brighton and Hove

Proposed expansion—heads-up

I have been preparing a large expansion to this article in my sandbox for what feels like the last 6,213,356 years (!). I plan to copy the content across, incorporating any bits from the current article which I haven't yet included. Also, to reflect the diversity of places of worship and the citywide coverage, I propose a name change to Churches and places of worship in Brighton and Hove. There are several churches I haven't written about yet, and possibly others I've missed out or forgotten about. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 12:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, and I for one would support the change of name (presuming we're not treading on the toes of any other articles such as a Hove one — but they should/could be merged in anyway). Would you like to open up the sandbox version for comments first, or is the plan to "be bold"? ;-) – Kieran T ^(talk) 15:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll be a bit bold, in that I plan to move it across tonight or tomorrow, but I'd greatly appreciate any comments, edits etc ... the sandbox is here (ignore the misleading title; I reused an old railway-ticket-related sandbox!) Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 16:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your tweaks Kieran. I have made the move now. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Still need to do these:

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Mention in summary: Good Shepherd, Mile Oak Good Shepherd, Dyke Road Holy Cross, Woodingdean Holy Nativity, Bevendean St Andrew, Moulsecoomb St Andrew, Portslade Done. St Cuthman, Whitehawk St John the Evangelist, Preston St Luke, Kemptown St Luke, Seven Dials St Mary Magdalene, Coldean St Nicholas, Saltdean Do full articles: St Mary, Kemptown St Nicolas, Portslade Done. St Philip, Hove St Luke, Queens Pk Research/check: Church (Evangelical?) on Balfour Rd Spiritualist church on Edward St (strange shape) Evangelical church near south entrance of Queen's Park Evangelical church (?) in Southern Cross, on the #1 bus route Church on Old Shoreham Rd between back end of Dorothy Rd and Gladys Rd (Arabic Evangelical?) Coordinates St Philip's Church, Hove Church of the Good Shepherd, Mile Oak St Cuthman's Church, Whitehawk St Mary Magdalene's Church, Coldean Church of the Sacred Heart, Hove St Mary Magdalen's Church, Brighton St Peter's Church, Aldrington Holland Road Baptist Church, Hove Florence Road Baptist Church, Brighton Galeed Strict Baptist Chapel, North Laine Gloucester Place Baptist Church, Brighton Montpelier Place Baptist Church, Brighton Oasis Christian Fellowship Church, Hangleton Portslade Baptist Church, Portslade Stoneham Road Baptist Church, Hove Brighton Salvation Army Citadel Hove Congress Hall
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Pics Church of the Ascension, Westdene Church of the Good Shepherd, Mile Oak St Cuthman's Church, Whitehawk St Mary Magdalene's Church, Coldean St George's Church, West Blatchington Hollingbury Methodist Church Brighton & Hove Hebrew Congregation Synagogue Kingdom Hall, Osmond Road, Hove Al-Madina Mosque, Hove Al-Quds Mosque, Brighton City Coast Church, Portslade First Church of Christ Scientist, Brighton Mile Oak Gospel Hall Goldstone Valley Gospel Hall Rutland Gospel Hall, Hove Seventh Day Adventist Church, Hove Chapel of the Holy Family, Hollingdean St Stephen's Church, Brighton Franklin Road Methodist Church Goldstone Villas Methodist Church (now Europa House) Queen's Park Methodist Church United Methodist Church (Old Shoreham Road/Montefiore Road, near the mosque!) Elim Tabernacle Church of the Four Square Gospel, Brighton (now the Font & Firkin) Former Kingdom Hall, Southern Cross Former Mormon church in Coldean Former Society of Dependents chapel near Aldrington station

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Summary info St Philip's Church, Hove St Cuthman's Church, Whitehawk St Mary Magdalene's Church, Coldean Al-Madina Mosque, Hove Al-Quds Mosque, Brighton Middle Street Synagogue, Brighton St Mark's Church, Kemptown St Stephen's Church, Brighton

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Separate articles needed St Mary the Virgin Church, Kemptown (started here) Church of the Good Shepherd, Preston St John the Evangelist's Church, Preston (started here) St Joseph's Church, Brighton Church of the Sacred Heart, Hove (started here) St Mary Magdalen's Church, Brighton (started here) St Peter's Church, Aldrington (started here) Holland Road Baptist Church, Hove Hove Methodist Church, Hove St Peter's Church, Preston St Stephen's Church, Brighton (started here) Holy Trinity Church, Hove (started here) St Augustine's Church, Preston (started here) St Mark's Church, Kemptown (started here) St Wilfrid's Church, Brighton Elim Tabernacle Church of the Four Square Gospel, Brighton (started here)

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Investigate Gospel Hall in Mile Oak Gospel Hall in West Blatchington Former Mormon church in Coldean Ex-Methodist in Goldstone Villas, Hove, now Europa House (see Enc H&P) Ex-Methodist in Franklin Road, Portslade (see Enc H&P) Ex-Methodist in Old Shoreham Road/Montefiore Road (see Enc H&P) (near the mosque!) Ex-Methodist in Queens Park Road, Brighton City Coast Church in Portslade (North Street) (see Enc H&P) Seventh-Day Adventists (Hove) (see Enc H&P) See here as well! Society of St Pius X, Hollingdean (see here) Synagogue, New Church Road (see Enc H&P vol 13 page 147 and here)

Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 17:10, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Christ THe King picture?

Is the building on the left in File:NEQ_014_03-02-2007.jpg Clarendon Center, where this evangelical group have their meetings? Circeus (talk) 19:24, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

It is. I've now got a "proper" picture of it (i.e. showing the whole building), which I can upload to replace the pic of the building in Hove which they don't use any more. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:27, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Christ the King, Patcham

That church is mentioned in the summary for St Thomas More, but not listed. I searched for more information and it appears to now be occupied by another Elim Pentecostal congregation. You actually already have a picture of it. Circeus (talk) 00:37, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Good spot - I had totally forgotten about it! I think there's some info in the All Saints Church, Patcham article which I can spin out. Looks like you're right about the Elim congregation moving in: it's the congregation who had been displaced from the Balfour Road church, which I found had been demolished when I went there to photograph it a few weeks ago. Not sure if that newsletter is a reliable source. This looks useful, but is a dead link at the moment. I'll add this at lunchtime. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 08:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Here's a HTML format of that parish newsletter. Also, this diocesan document lists the redundancy and dates it to 2006. Circeus (talk) 16:45, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Excellent; refs/details added accordingly. I've also put in a couple of disused churchs and another extant one I'd forgotten. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:15, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Preston

Please disambiguate Preston Village from Preston Park - it's going to be confusing otherwise, even without the Lancashire Preston. I was going to do this myself, but I'm not actually sure the right link is consistently used. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll get on to this ASAP. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

All corrected now. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 14:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Move?

A beautiful article, as your preceding list on Crawley; but shouldn't it be moved to List of places of worship in Brighton and Hove, like with Crawley and like the new list you are making with Mid Sussex?--Aldux (talk) 15:08, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, definitely; I meant to do it earlier, but it slipped my mind! Thanks for the reminder. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 15:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. All redirects fixed as well. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 16:01, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Downs Baptist Church, Woodingdean

Was looking something different and came across this group. They built a church in Woodingdean which they stopped using in 1991. Not clear whether it's still standing. They currently have no premises of their own Circeus (talk) 23:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I found out a bit about them; it seems they are now meeting in the local primary school. I looked around for the building when I was in Woodingdean on one of the photography missions for the article, but it seems to have gone. The community greengrocer they run is still there, though, as is another shop unit! As they no longer have a dedicated place of worship and the old one isn't there, I think they're outside the scope of the list. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:44, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. I just had no mean whatsoever to tell whether there was still a church. Circeus (talk) 01:39, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Religious affiliation

A very impressive list; but I have a feeling that a useful integration to the section on "religious affiliation" would be to try to quantify the numbers of the various Christian denominations, especially since the overwhelming majority of places of worships are churches and just saying how many are Christians leaves a sort of unsatisfying impression.--Aldux (talk) 16:13, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree in principle; unfortunately that sort of info doesn't seem to be available anywhere. The Census would be the only source that might have a reliable record of this data, but in practice it doesn't: the "Religion" question is optional, and any answer that is written in the "Other" box on the form is manually reallocated to either the "Any Other Religion" category or to the most appropriate broader category. So if somebody wrote "Methodist" and didn't tick "Christian", they would still be recorded as Christian in the Census data because they would be manually added to the Christian total. For some of the larger denominations, figures might be available at higher levels (e.g. for the Diocese of Chichester as a whole), but they would not be drilled down to lower levels such as specific deaneries or parishes. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 15:31, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I see; I was hoping that the major Christian denominations, i.e. Anglicans and Catholics, may have kept data on churchgoing attendancy per district, but I was wrong. Ciao, --Aldux (talk) 17:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Bristol Road Methodist Church

Just a notice: the Church is Grade II listed [1].--Aldux (talk) 01:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Well spotted; thanks. I'll quickly do an article for it (there's not much out there, but a couple of books and the IoE listing have enough detail between them). It was listed on the same day as the nearby St Mark's, which I'm also doing an article for today; English Heritage must have been doing a lot of work in that area on that day! Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 09:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Brighton Regency Synagogue

I wonder... Should this article recenty written on a former snagogue be added to the list of the former places of worship? At least seen from the outside, while converted to flats it has maintained at the very least the same facade. What do you think?--Aldux (talk) 19:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, definitely. I'll sort this out on Saturday (although I'll need to go down to Brighton at some point and get a pic); should be able to expand the article itself as well. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:25, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, just thinking about it, that street is really narrow and awkward for photography, so I might have to take that one from Flickr if it's suitably licensed. It's a listed building (Grade II) as well (480561), so it can have a WP:HSITES infobox. Will try to work on this tomorrow after getting back from photographing yet more churches :) Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

The licence is OK being CC-BY. I'll upload it tonight to commons. And good travels!--Aldux (talk) 21:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

That's great—thanks. Hoping to fill in about 15 gaps here with a quick trip to East Grinstead and surrounding villages ... I need several buses to be reliable! Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

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Useful ref. re. synagogue proposals

Brighton plans radical revival of its Jewish community (from The Jewish Chronicle). Archived version on 21/1/2019 Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 21:01, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Updates on this following the opening of new synagogue on 4/3/2023: [2] [3] Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:25, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

More updates needed (consolidating these under one heading)

• SSPX Hollingdean closed: URL with pre-closure info Original planning app for conversion into chapel Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 16:33, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
• Brotherhood Gate Spiritualist Church at 21c St James's Street (50.821133, -0.134249) is still extant. Set back well behind the street along a gated twitten between Buon Appetito and the restaurant next door (currently the Social Board). WR 71921, MR 36496 (3/11/1969, LG 44975 p11669). Premises were previously registered for worship *only* as "Brotherhood Gate Associate Church" between 13/7/1939 and 3/11/1969 (LG 44972 p11428). Associated with SNU. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:39, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
• Proposed demolition of former St Francis of Assisi, Moulsecoomb. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 17:27, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
• Bampfield Hall (Southern Cross Primitive Methodist Chapel) has been demolished: see here Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:23, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
• Goldstone Villas Methodist Chapel reregistered by Christadelphians 1964–1969 (see also here)
• Some info about churches in Moulsecoomb/Bevendean area Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:23, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

References

Former LDS in Coldean

App for demolition and replacement with flats: monitor this Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 17:10, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Gone by June 2023 and new houses more or less complete. Follow up. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 16:52, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Proposals for Bentham Road Mission Hall

Here and here Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:21, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Marriage reg and dereg (but when reg for worship?) Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:07, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

New synagogue on New Church Road opened

News article. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 18:45, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Brighton and Hove Reform Synagogue

Keep an eye on demolition/rebuilding proposals. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 16:51, 22 August 2023 (UTC)