Talk:List of political and geographic borders

Article name

I feel like the name of this article is unfortunate. It makes it sound like a ridiculous concept, when, in fact, there is some good information here. I wonder if there is any support for a name change. How about "List of political and geographic boundaries"? maxsch (talk) 16:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree that there must be a better name than the current one, which only makes sense after you think about it for a minute. Your idea is pretty good, I'd be fine with a move to that title. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 17:52, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for making the move. I think it is a definite improvement. maxsch (talk) 17:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

French Guiana

Is part of France. It is not a dependency. Its citizens are French citizens, it is part of the EU. Legally, it is as French as Paris. France borders Brazil. It's like Hawaii to the continental US. maxsch (talk) 18:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Other stuff

I've been thinking a little about this page. I think it could have some other sections that are more physical geography based and less political. What about lists of mountain ranges and the countries they pass through--I'm thinking specifically of cases like the Alps or the Himalayas, that straddle several countries. Does that belong here? How about rivers? We might limit it to rivers that either actually cross national borders or are national borders? The Mekong is an interesting case. And I've also been thinking about the idea of listing maritime borders in addition to land borders (maybe in a different column?) in cases where territorial waters touch but land doesn't. Australia and Papua New Guinea is an example. Just some thoughts. maxsch (talk) 23:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Some good ideas there, but I think that the country and dependency lists should be finished before any geographic lists are started, especially since this article doesn't get many edits. I agree with listing maritime borders, though they should have some kind of identifier like dependency borders and seas. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 01:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I might be getting ahead of myself. I'll work on some countries for now. maxsch (talk) 02:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

classification

There is a bridge connecting an island in Denmark (the one with Copenhagen on it) with mainland Sweden. I'm thinking that still only qualifies as a maritime border, but it is pretty close to being a land border. maxsch (talk) 16:15, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Continents

On the Continent page, there are several overlapping lists of continents. I feel like we can accommodate them all here. Does anyone have a problem with including Eurasia along with Europe and Asia, Australia and Oceania, etc.? Countries could have more than one affiliation, if applicable. maxsch (talk) 05:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I have no problem with doing that. And if those continents are included, we should probably mention the pseudo-continents like Central America and the Middle East too (especially since those are used as continents within the Countries section). --TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 21:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

table formats

I changed the seas section to a table with lines on it. I think it's much easier to read that way and I am going to do the other sections unless there is opposition. xschm (talk) 20:44, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Source

What is the source of that list? And is there any XML or other computer-readable format of it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peleg (talk • contribs) 14:08, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Palestine

For the following reasons below, I am requesting that the number of sovereign states in all wikipedia related articles be 195- the 193 members of the UN, observer Vatican City, and observer state of Palestine (note; this was written in a fully objective and fact based basis and holds no prejudice or double standards in any of the sovereignty disputes regarding the partially recognized states);

- unlike the other states with limited recognition (abkhazia, Taiwan, North Cyprus, Kosovo, etc), all have 113 (~57%) or less recognitions by the UN, while Palestine has 136 recognitions, which amount to ~70.5% of the UN, which gives it limited recognition, but far beyond the partially recognised level. Additionally, states like China, Cyprus, Armenia, and Israel are also disputed by one or more UN members and still have sufficient enough recognition

- None of the states with partial or no recognition (including Kosovo) have neither member or observer status in the UN and do not participate in anyway while palestine is an observer (alongside Vatican City, another non member sovereign state)

- Contrary to popular belief, despite its limited recognition, no country (not even the ones that do not recognize Palestine) except Israel disputes palestinian sovereignty over the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem and actually support the creation of a Palestinian state in these territories, a goal also recognized and supported by the UN while the rest of the partially recognized states all are either (partly or fully) recognized as part of other countries and neither is their right to statehood.

- The UN did not fully reject Palestine, as it has granted it non member observer STATE status (along with some rights such as a permanent mission, it’s flag in its HQ, the right to join international conventions, etc), it is designated as ‘the state of palestine’ in official UN documents, and its observer status vote in 2012 ( among most votes on the issue ) witness an automatic majority. In addition, the security council did not reject the application for statehood in 2011, it just that UNSC members grew divided on the issue and was unable to muster a consensus. It is the palestinians that decided to put it on hold due to US pressure among other threats

I sincerely hope that the editing community will change Palestine’s categorization in all related Wikipedia articles, and this was all written in a neutral, objective, and fact based manner. Thank you

Talatastan (talk) 12:08, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

"Western Sahara"

"Western Sahara" is a geographical area and not a political entity. Hisokratch (talk) 17:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

I already explained to you on your talk page that you don't have a point, but since you're only interested in edit warring to push a clear-cut political agenda, I'll let the others deal with your nonsense. M.Bitton (talk) 17:13, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

I think you're wrong . And you have no arguments as I told you . And you started the edit warring . Hisokratch (talk) 17:54, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

And the wikipedia page on this topic states tha clearly on the top of the page .

"This article is about the geographical area. For the partially recognized state that controls the Free Zone and claims sovereignty over Western Sahara, see Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic." Hisokratch (talk) 17:58, 27 December 2022 (UTC)