Talk:List of proverbial phrases

Cleanup

Since the clean-up of this article promised in the AFD discussion has barely materialized, in the spirit of verifiability, I am boldly moving the unreferenced entries here to the talk page. Please do not restore any of them without adding proper citations using reliable sources. Toddst1 (talk) 16:32, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm restoring some accessibility (and some IMO needed commentary) by subordinating this alpha list to an enclosing section. I may get around to changing the alpha'n scheme in the same way that i'm changing the simplistic and inefficient "Of course articles (and the like) count like real words" approach
--Jerzy•t 21:15, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

   I had hoped that the deeper level of indentation that i created would be hidden along with the text. Perhaps the alpha-ToC-in-horizontal-row template will improve the appearance and accessibility. If, not the displayed ToC is still shorter than most editors' screens' column height, and should not amount to a significant accessibility barrier.
--Jerzy•t 21:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Collapsing for ease of talk page use

A A change is as good as a rest A friend in need is a friend indeed A golden key can open any door A good beginning makes a good ending A good man is hard to find A little of what you fancy does you good A man who is his own lawyer has a fool for his client A miss is as good as a mile A new broom sweeps clean A nod's as good as a wink to a blind horse A penny saved is a penny earned A person is known by the company he keeps A picture paints a thousand words A place for everything and everything in its place A poor workman always blames his tools A problem shared is a problem halved A prophet is not recognized in his own land A trouble shared is a trouble halved A volunteer is worth twenty pressed men A watched pot never boils A woman's place is in the home A woman's work is never done A word to the wise is enough Absence makes the heart grow fonder Absolute power corrupts absolutely Accidents will happen (in the best-regulated families). Actions speak louder than words Adversity makes strange bedfellows All good things come to he who waits All good things must come to an end All is grist that comes to the mill All roads lead to Rome All that glisters is not gold All the world loves a lover All things come to those who wait All things must pass All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy All you need is love All's fair in love and war All's for the best in the best of all possible worlds All's well that ends well A miss is as good as a mile An apple a day keeps the doctor away An army marches on its stomach An Englishman's home is his castle An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure Any port in a storm Any publicity is good publicity April showers bring forth May flowers As you make your bed, so you must lie upon it As you sow so shall you reap Ask a silly question and you'll get a silly answer Ask no questions and hear no lies Attack is the best form of defence B Bad news travels fast Barking dogs seldom bite Beauty is in the eye of the beholder Beauty is only skin deep Beggars can't be choosers Behind every great man there's a great woman Better late than never Better safe than sorry Better the Devil you know than the Devil you don't Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness Better to remain silent and be thought a fool that to speak and remove all doubt Beware of Greeks bearing gifts Big fish eat little fish Birds of a feather flock together Blood is thicker than water Boys will be boys Brevity is the soul of wit Business before pleasure C Caesar's wife must be above suspicion Charity begins at home Cheats never prosper Children should be seen and not heard Cleanliness is next to godliness Clothes make the man Cold hands, warm heart Comparisons are odious Count you blessings Cowards may die many times before their death Crime doesn't pay Cut your coat to suit your cloth D Dead men tell no tales Devil take the hindmost Discretion is the better part of valor Do as I say, not as I do Do as you would be done by Do unto others as you would have them do unto you Don't bite the hand that feeds you Don't burn your bridges behind you Don't change horses in midstream Don't cross the bridge till you come to it Don't cut off your nose to spite your face Don't keep a dog and bark yourself Don't let the bastards grind you down Don't look a gift horse in the mouth Don't meet troubles half-way Don't put all your eggs in one basket Don't put the cart before the horse Don't put new wine into old bottles Don't rock the boat Don't spoil the ship for a ha'pworth of tar Don't throw pearls to swine Don't teach your Grandma to suck eggs Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater Don't try to walk before you can crawl Don't upset the apple-cart Don't wash your dirty linen in public Doubt is the beginning not the end of wisdom E Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise East is east, and west is west East, west, home's best Easy come, easy go Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die Empty vessels make the most noise Enough is as good as a feast Enough is enough Even a worm will turn Every cloud has a silver lining Every dog has his day Every Jack has his Jill Every little helps Every man for himself, and the Devil take the hindmost Every man has his price Every picture tells a story Every stick has two ends Everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die F Fact is stranger than fiction Failing to plan is planning to fail Faint heart never won fair lady Fair exchange is no robbery Faith will move mountains Familiarity breeds contempt Feed a cold and starve a fever Fight fire with fire Finders keepers, losers weepers Fine words butter no parsnips First come, first served First impressions are the most lasting First things first Fish always stinks from the head downwards Fish and guests smell after three days Flattery will get you nowhere Fools rush in where angels fear to tread For want of a nail the shoe was lost; for want of a shoe the horse was lost; and for want of a horse the man was lost Forewarned is forearmed Fortune favours the brave From the sublime to the ridiculous is only one step G Genius is an infinite capacity for taking pains Give a dog a bad name and hang him Give a man rope enough and he will hang himself Give credit where credit is due God helps those who help themselves Good fences make good neighbors Good talk saves the food Good things come to those who wait Great (or good) minds think alike H Half a loaf is better than no bread Handsome is as handsome does Hard cases make bad law Hard work never did anyone any harm Haste makes waste He that goes a-borrowing, goes a-sorrowing He who can does, he who cannot, teaches He who fights and runs away, may live to fight another day He who hesitates is lost He who laughs last laughs longest He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword He who pays the piper calls the tune He who sups with the Devil should have a long spoon Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned Hindsight is always twenty-twenty History repeats itself Home is where the heart is Honesty is the best policy Hope springs eternal Horses for courses I If anything can go wrong, it will If a job is worth doing it is worth doing well If at first you don't succeed try, try and try again If God had meant us to fly he'd have given us wings If ifs and ands were pots and pans there'd be no work for tinkers If life deals you lemons, make lemonade If the cap fits, wear it If the mountain won't come to Mohammed, then Mohammed must go to the mountain If wishes were horses beggars would ride If you can't be good, be careful If you can't beat em, join em If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys If you want a thing done well, do it yourself Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery In for a penny, in for a pound In the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king In the midst of life we are in death Into every life a little rain must fall It goes without saying It is best to be on the safe side It is better to give than to receive It is easy to be wise after the event It never rains but it pours It takes a thief to catch a thief It takes all sorts to make a world It takes one to know one It takes two to tango It's all grist to the mill It's an ill wind that blows no one any good It's better to give than to receive It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all It's better to light a candle than curse the darkness It's better to travel hopefully than to arrive It's never too late It's no use crying over spilt milk It's no use locking the stable door after the horse has bolted It's the early bird that gets the worm It's the empty can that makes the most noise It's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease J Jack of all trades, master of none Judge not, that ye be not judged K Keep your chin up Keep your powder dry L Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone Laughter is the best medicine Least said, soonest mended Less is more Let bygones be bygones Let not the sun go down on your wrath Let sleeping dogs lie Let the buyer beware Let the dead bury the dead Let the punishment fit the crime Let well alone Life begins at forty Life is what you make it Life's not all beer and skittles Lightening never strikes twice in the same place Like father, like son Little pitchers have big ears Little strokes fell great oaks Little things please little minds Live for today for tomorrow never comes Look before you leap Love is blind Love makes the world go round Love will find a way M Make hay while the sun shines Make love not war Man does not live by bread alone Manners maketh man Many a little makes a mickle Many a mickle makes a muckle Many a true word is spoken in jest Many hands make light work March comes in like a lion, and goes out like a lamb Marriages are made in heaven Marry in haste, repent at leisure Might is right Mighty oaks from little acorns grow Misery loves company Moderation in all things Monday's child is fair of face, Tuesday's child is full of grace, Wednesday's child is full of woe, Thursday's child has far to go, Friday's child is loving and giving, Saturday's child works hard for its living, And a child that's born on the Sabbath day Is fair and wise and good and gay. Money doesn't grow on trees Money is the root of all evil Money isn't everything Money makes the world go round Money talks More haste, less speed Music has charms to soothe the savage breast N Nature abhors a vacuum Necessity is the mother of invention Needs must when the devil drives Ne'er cast a clout till May be out Never give a sucker an even break Never judge a book by its cover Never let the sun go down on your anger Never look a gift horse in the mouth Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today Never speak ill of the dead Never tell tales out of school Nine tailors make a man No man can serve two masters No man is an island No names, no pack-drill No news is good news No one can make you feel inferior without your consent No pain, no gain No rest for the wicked Nothing is certain but death and taxes Nothing succeeds like success Nothing venture, nothing gain O Oil and water don't mix Old soldiers never die, they just fade away Once a thief, always a thief Once bitten, twice shy One good turn deserves another One half of the world does not know how the other half lives One hand washes the other One man's meat is another man's poison One might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb One law for the rich and another for the poor One swallow does not make a summer One year's seeding makes seven years weeding Only fools and horses work Opportunity never knocks twice at any man's door Out of sight, out of mind P Parsley seed goes nine times to the Devil Patience is a virtue Pearls of wisdom Penny wise and pound foolish People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones Physician, heal thyself Possession is nine points of the law Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely Practice makes perfect Practise what you preach Prevention is better than cure Pride goes before a fall Procrastination is the thief of time Put your best foot forward R Red sky at night shepherds delight; red sky in the morning, shepherds warning Revenge is a dish best served cold Revenge is sweet Rome wasn't built in a day S See a pin and pick it up, all the day you'll have good luck; see a pin and let it lie, bad luck you'll have all day See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil Seeing is believing Seek and ye shall find Set a thief to catch a thief Shrouds have no pockets Silence is golden Slow but sure Softly, softly, catchee monkey Spare the rod and spoil the child Speak as you find Speak softly and carry a big stick Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me Still waters run deep Strike while the iron is hot Stupid is as stupid does Success has many fathers, while failure is an orphan T Take care of the pence and the pounds will take care of themselves Talk is cheap Talk of the Devil, and he is bound to appear Tell the truth and shame the Devil That which does not kill us makes us stronger The age of miracles is past The apple never falls far from the tree The best defence is a good offence The best-laid schemes of mice and men gang aft agley The best things in life are free The bigger they are, the harder they fall The boy is father to the man The bread never falls but on its buttered side The child is the father of the man The cobbler always wears the worst shoes The course of true love never did run smooth The customer is always right The darkest hour is just before the dawn The devil finds work for idle hands to do The devil looks after his own The early bird catches the worm The end justifies the means The enemy of my enemy is my friend The exception which proves the rule The female of the species is more deadly than the male The good die young The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world The husband is always the last to know The labourer is worthy of his hire The leopard does not change his spots The longest journey starts with a single step The more the merrier The more things change, the more they stay the same The only good Indian is a dead Indian The pen is mightier than sword The proof of the pudding is in the eating The road to hell is paved with good intentions The shoemaker's son always goes barefoot The squeaking wheel gets the grease The way to a man's heart is through his stomach There are more ways of killing a cat than choking it with cream There are none so blind as those, that will not see There are two sides to every question There but for the grace of God, go I There's an exception to every rule There's always more fish in the sea There's honour among thieves There's many a good tune played on an old fiddle There's many a slip 'twixt cup and lip There's many a slip twixt cup and lip There's more than one way to skin a cat There's no accounting for tastes There's no fool like an old fool There's no place like home There's no smoke without fire There's no such thing as a free lunch There's no such thing as bad publicity There's no time like the present There's none so blind as those who will not see There's none so deaf as those who will not hear There's nowt so queer as folk There's one born every minute There's safety in numbers They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind Third time lucky Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones Those who sleep with dogs will rise with fleas Time and tide wait for no man Time flies Time is a great healer Time is money Time will tell 'tis better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all To err is human, to forgive divine To the victor go the spoils To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive Tomorrow is another day Tomorrow never comes Totally not exactly practical shit that we convince ourselves we need more than money are the spices of life Too many cooks spoil the broth Truth is stranger than fiction Truth will out Two blacks don't make a white Two heads are better then one Two is company, but three's a crowd Two wrongs don't make a right (U is so far empty) V Variety is the spice of life Very good to meet you my dear. W Walk softly but carry a big stick Walls have ears Walnuts and pears you plant for your heirs Waste not want not What can't be cured must be endured What goes up must come down What you lose on the swings you gain on the roundabouts What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander When in Rome, do as the Romans do When the cat's away the mice will play When the going gets tough, the tough get going When the oak is before the ash, then you will only get a splash; when the ash is before the oak, then you may expect a soak What the eye doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve over Where there's a will there's a way Where there's muck there's brass While there's life there's hope Whom the Gods love die young Why keep a dog and bark yourself? Wonders will never cease Work expands so as to fill the time available Worrying never did anyone any good Y You are never too old to learn You are what you eat You can have too much of a good thing You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink You can't have your cake and eat it You can't get blood out of a stone You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs You can't make bricks without straw You can't run with the hare and hunt with the hounds You can't teach an old dog new tricks You can't tell a book by looking at its cover You can't win them all You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar You catch just as many flies with shit as you do honey You pays your money and you takes your choice Youth is wasted on the young (Z is so far empty)

copyvio

I have removed the copyvio notice, as i do not consider this copyvio.

1. if it had copied or paraphrased closely the definitions from the site listed, then it would of course be copyvio, site it's copyvio, but it does not do that
2. If it included the items on the list exactly in their original arrangement, it would be copyvio, but it does not do that.
3. If it included all the items on the list, and nothing else, it might possibly be copyvio, depending upon whether the making of the list is considered an act of intellectual creativity, but it does not do that.
4. It merely includes some of the items, in a different arrangement. Any list of proverbs cited on the basis of any source at all, or even compiled entirely from OR, could not possibly avoid doing including many of the items on the list The article merely cites some -- not even all -- of the proverbs included o the list as evidence that they are considered proverbial phrases. That is not copyvio. It's like saying that every article is a copyvio of a dictionary, because most of the words in it can be found in that dictionary.

As a librarian, my own bias is to be on the strict side in terms of copyright enforcement, and I routinely delete articles as copyvio every day--by now I must have deleted hundreds And sometimes I rewrite sections of an article--or even sometimes an entire article-- to avoid any possible traces. I conclude my judgement is apt to be on the conservative side.

I have accordingly removed the copyvio notice. If anyone disagrees, they can discuss it here, or bring it to Copyright Problems. If brought elsewhere, please include my comment and notify me DGG ( talk ) 22:04, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm done here. I've notified the copyright owner. Let them sort it out. Toddst1 (talk) 01:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I concur with DGG and have re-removed the copyright notice. We've had a complaint in at OTRS Ticket:2010040610022859 about the matter, which I am handling. Stifle (talk) 14:53, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Formatting

I am a bit appalled by the formatting of this list. Some list items have punctuation, some have author citations, others have none of these. I would spend some time editing it, but I'm not sure what the de facto rules are for formatting this kind of list. Can somebody do something about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyKlose (talk • contribs) 03:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

@TonyKlose if no one has replied, I say go for it. let me know what you think about the phrase I added. " Love is like ignorance, if you've never been in it, you don't know what your missing". I came up with it myself. ☺ I wish you well with your endeavors. Jeanloveen (talk) 18:56, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

problem with the list is that these are mostly proverbs, not proverbial phrases

Proverbial phrases are necessarily able to vary according to use in context, not fixed expressions. Fixed expressions, for the purposes of folklore theory, which is where these terms come from, are called proverbs.

The previous, unsigned comment says it too gently. Most of these are not "proverbial phrases", but full proverbs. 12.177.127.231 (talk) 21:09, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Signing my previous post, Pete unseth (talk) 21:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Is ... considered a proverb?

Does "The only stupid question is the one left unasked" qualify as a proverb? (If not, I'll remove the link back to the proverb page from The only stupid question is the question you don't ask - Idiomatic Proverb) Technical 13 (talk) 00:25, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

The main problem...

... is that most of these so-called proverbs are actually aphorisms. There is a difference. 184.7.175.199 (talk) 22:06, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

   Perhaps all the aphorisms were moved from this list of proverbs to List_of_aphoristic_phrases or List_of_aphoristisms? (No, not yet.) This claim could be far more persuasive if someone chose to clarify the substance of any wikt:difference between those two forms of formulaic language, and how users would be helped by separating them according this wikt:distinction.
--Jerzy•t 20:57, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Cross-wiki Proverb redundancy

A discussion of cross-wiki Proverb redundancy relating to this page has been initiated at the Village Pump. bd2412 T 02:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Alphabetizing by first word -- even if its "A" or "The" (or disproportionately chosen non-article words) -- hinders accessibility

   Yeah, this is just a talk page, but maybe if it were easier to use, more efforts to improve the sourcing might be made.
--Jerzy•t 21:40, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Phrases beginning with the article "A"

Following the comment above, there's an interesting faux pas in the article. I've included the first few lines of the list to illustrate a problem with the first 22 entries in it (the bolding of the characters is all mine). There is a conclusion to be drawn, but is it to enforce the concept or abandon it completely?

A

Phrases beginning with the article "A" should be sought alphabetically under the first letter of the second word.

• A bad excuse is better than none
  
• A bad penny always turns up
  
• A bad workman blames his tools.
  
• A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."

--PårWöet (talk) 11:07, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Several months have passed without comment. The claim is entirely untrue as it stands so I've removed it.PårWöet (talk) 12:55, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Proverb Pairs

Based on my belief that proverbs don't express truths, in the sense that they are not substitutes for thought but rather succinct ways to express yourself once you have given a matter some thought, I'd like to see all proverbs listed in proverb pairs. Fuficius Fango (talk) 20:22, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

could you elaborate? SkidMountTubularFrame (talk)

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I'm good right now you know I not a bogus beggar Bosslaady40 (talk) 21:37, 4 January 2020 (UTC)