Talk:List of regiments of foot

117th

Is 117th Regiment of Foot (1761) the same as 74th Regiment of Foot (Invalids)?

The old list at regiments.org suggested no; 61-62; 62-68. However, it's possible it was - the details would certainly match. Is there a standard reference for this? Andrew Gray (talk) 20:36, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

It's here: Farmer, John S (1901). The Regimental Records of the British Army. A Historical Résumé Chronologically Arranged of Titles, Campaigns, Honours, Uniforms, Facings, Badges, Nicknames etc. London: Grant Richards. p. 192. if it's reliable Lozleader (talk) 21:40, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. That leaves it a little ambiguous; it doesn't say if the 117th Invalids were the same as the previous 117th. Andrew Gray (talk) 21:51, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Oh I see what you mean. I think they are the same and the (1761) should be (1762) in the article title. Lozleader (talk) 10:06, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

This book [1] (p.555) from 1851 muddies the waters nicely. It has the 116th, 117th and 118th (Invalids) Regiments all raised in 1762 and disbanded in 1763, and the 73rd - 75th regiments formed in 1765 and disbanded in 1768, but seems a bit confused.Lozleader (talk) 10:51, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Ah here we go: Journal of the Society for Army Historical Research - Volume 66 - Page 14 (1988):

"In 1762 three more Invalid Regiments were raised as the 116th, 117th and 118th, all wearing Invalid unform. ... the 81st and 82nd were re-numbered as 71st and 72nd Foot, and the 116th, 117th and 118th as the 73rd, 74th and 75th Foot."

So I would go for 1762. Lozleader (talk) 10:54, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Now someone has added the 1761 regiment as an extra one. Think that's probably wrong (but well intentioned). Lozleader (talk) 14:18, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

sorry misunderstood the comments above. Issue fixed hopefully now. --Traveler100 (talk) 19:24, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

38th

According to Colonel Vale's History of the South Staffordshire Regiment the date of raising of the 38th Foot was wrongly celebrated for over 200 years as 13 Feb 1702 when the correct date is 25 March 1705. The original order for the raising of a regiment of volunteers by Luke Lillingston is held in the National Archives (WO25/3149 p.36) and is dated April 1705 - the issue was discussed in the Journal of Army Historical Research in 1953 and the conclusion was that the Army List giving the date as 1702 was an error. This raised the subsequent question of why the 38th held seniority over the 39th when the 39th was raised in 1702 - the explanation is that the 39th was raised in Ireland and did not feature in the English establishment until 1707 and therefore the seniority of the 39th is from the latter date only. I'd suggest that Swinson is here, incorrect, and the entry be amended in line with the original Order of Raising. NtheP (talk) 12:13, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely, if we can dig out the citations...Lozleader (talk) 12:50, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Our Luke Lillingstone article is confused! "Lillingstone was without a command until 1705, when he was authorised to raise a regiment of foot. The third Lillingstone's Regiment was duly raised at the King's Head, Bird Street, Lichfield on 13 February 1702." The 1702 date comes from a regimental history, but I note that it appears the plaque [2] at the location in Lichfield is dated 25 March 1705. Lozleader (talk) 13:09, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

I can cite Vale, no problem. The JAHR would be good but I don't have any back copies to refer to. Lillingstone's ONDB entry [3] is clear on the 1705 date. I'm surprised about The Short History ... as it postdates Vale. NtheP (talk) 13:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Missing entry from source list

@Lozleader: there's several references to Fergusson 1968 in the text but the book isn't listed in the sources. Can you expand? Nthep (talk) 17:05, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Only just saw this.... tis done. Lozleader (talk) 15:10, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Timeline

Timeline 1702–1881

1701–1714 War of the Spanish Succession

• 1702: 28th-39th Regiments raised

1717–1720 War of the Quadruple Alliance

• 1717: 40th Regiment raised
• 1719: 41st Regiment raised

1739–48 War of Jenkins' Ear; War of the Austrian Succession

• 1737: 42nd Regiment raised
• 1739: 43rd-49th Regiments raised
• 1740: 50th-53rd Regiments raised
• 1741: 54th-60th Regiments raised
• 1742: 61st-62nd Regiments raised
• 1743: 63rd Regiment raised
• 1745: 64th-79th Regiments raised
• 1746: 67th-79th Regiments disbanded

1748 Treaty of Aix-la-Chapelle

• 1748-9: 42nd, 44th-53rd, 60th-62nd, 64th-66th Regiments disbanded. 43rd Regiment renumbered as 42nd, 54th-59th as 43rd-48th, 63rd as 49th.

1754–1763 Seven Years' War

• 1754: 50th-51st Regiments raised.
• 1755: 52nd-62nd Regiments raised.
• 1756-7: 50th-51st Regiments disbanded. 52nd-62nd Regiments renumbered as 50th-60th. 61st-64th Regiments raised.
• 1758: Second battalions of several regiments redesignated as 61st-75th and 86th-87th Regiments. 80th-85th Regiments raised. Previous 61st-64th renumbered as 76th-79th.
• 1760-2: 88th-124th Regiments raised.

1763 Treaty of Paris

• 1763-4: 71st-80th, 83rd-115th, 119th-124th Regiments disbanded. 81st-82nd renumbered as 71st-72nd, 116th-118th as 73rd-75th.
• 1769: 71st-75th Regiments dispersed to independent companies.

1775–1783 American Revolutionary War

• 1775: 71st Regiment raised.
• 1777-80: 72nd-105th Regiments raised.

1783 Treaty of Paris

• 1783-4: 72nd, 74th-77th, 79th-105th Regiments disbanded.
• 1786: 71st Regiment disbanded. 73rd renumbered as 71st, 78th as 72nd.
• 1786-7: 73rd-77th Regiments raised.

1793–1802 French Revolutionary War

• 1793: 78th-84th Regiments raised.
• 1793: 81st-82nd Regiments disbanded. 83rd-84th renumbered as 81st-82nd.
• 1793-4: 83rd-134th Regiments raised.
• 1795-6: 135th Regiment raised. 91st-97th, 99th, 100th-135th Regiments disbanded. 98th renumbered as 91st, 100th as 92nd.
• 1799: 93rd Regiment raised.
• 1802: Scots Brigade designated 94th Regiment, Corps of Riflemen as 95th.

1803–1814 Napoleonic Wars

• 1803: 96th Regiment raised.
• 1804-5: 97th-100th Regiments raised.
• 1806: 101st Regiment raised.
• 1809: 102nd-104th Regiments raised.

1815 Treaty of Paris

• 1816: 101st, 103rd-104th Regiments disbanded. 95th Regiment renamed Rifle Brigade. 96th-100th renumbered as 95th-99th, 102nd as 100th.
• 1818: 94th-100th Regiments disbanded.

1823 French intervention in Spain

• 1823-4: 94th-99th Regiments raised.

1857–1858 Indian Mutiny

• 1858: 100th Regiment raised.
• 1861: Indian regiments join British Army as 101st-109th Regiments.

1881 Childers reforms

• 1881: 26th-59th, 61st-78th and 80th-109th Regiments amalgamated. Numbers removed.

Opera hat (talk) 09:50, 12 January 2019 (UTC)