Talk:List of soups

Daal

Hey guys, there is a whole family of indian soup dishes called Daals and Sambars which hasn't been added. I'm not sure if this should be turned into a category or not, but it sure needs Daal. Mmm. 67.180.201.237 (talk) 04:20, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Italian Fish Soup Is a soup made of fish parts that are fried and then put in fish blood with some other italian spices.italian love this dish because it is so easy to make and healthy for your body, with a low source of fat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.160.49.233 (talk • contribs) 23:54, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Category?

As a list, this will be impossible to complete! This list isn't well researched, with the number of soups coming in under the 57 varieties of Heinz alone. SUrely this is better suited to being a category? Irishjp (talk) 14:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

There is a section called "Not Yet Organized", what the hell is that, doesn't seem very professional. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 23:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

section called "Not Yet Organized", is gone Warrington (talk) 09:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Endless

This page could go on forever if you're going to start listing cream Soups - anything can be made into a Creamed or Pureed soup. This while lots of classical soups go unmentioned, Oxtail being one for instance..--Tuzapicabit (talk) 22:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Oxtail is in the list now Warrington (talk) 09:27, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Include stew

Should stews be included in the list? I noticed that Warrington removed "stew" from a header. Mulligan stew is included, though it may not be a stew, given its ramshackle nature. Tealwisp (talk) 05:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Not regular stews, because they are not soups, they are stews, Listed here Stew#List of stews

Or whay do you think? Warrington (talk) 07:18, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't really have an opinion regarding the inclusion of stew. Soup is one of the few items that I do not normally cook. I just wanted to check up on the accepted standard of inclusion for this article. Tealwisp (talk) 01:19, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Than you have to start cookin http://www.cookingandmore.com/recipes/soups-salads.html?tx_ttnews%5Bpointer%5D=1&cHash=2dd0b5fa35 soups imediately! Some cherry soup maybe:)?

Warrington (talk) 14:26, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Include Red Bean Soup

Would someone who knows more about red bean soup add it to the list of dessert soups with a short description? Ahhoefel (talk) 00:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Question on Dashi

I question whether dashi should be included. Dashi is more of a soup stock than a soup in itself, therefore I propose removing it from the list and substituting either Tonjiru, which contains dashi as an ingredient, or Zoni, a special soup for celebrating the new year. Cheers. Heliatrope Fish (talk) 02:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Table format

I am thinking about putting this into table format consistent with List of breads, List of pies, tarts and flans, List of cakes, List of puddings, List of cookies, and List of sandwiches.

• Disadvantages: Big, stupid, ugly table.
• Advantages: Nice sortability. Images abound!

What do you think?

See also:Stew#Table format

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:58, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

 Done ... although I'm not entirely happy about the whole thing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:02, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

The good side:

• There were lots of strange errors in the last version which are now gone.
• New images!
• We can now clearly see what shouldn't be there.
• New stubs will come. (I will make some.)
• I now can see which need images. I think there's nothing left at commons that isn't now in the table.
• I will hit Flickr for images needed to fill in the gaps.
• One stop shopping to find out what soup to make.

The bad side:

• Big, stupid, ugly table.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:07, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

"Type"

I don't understand the column "type" - it starts off with most items described as "chunky", then it becomes "noodles", "fish", etc. Besides, most of the stuff labelled "chunky" isn't. Thick and chunky are NOT the same thing. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 14:50, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

New column for "Origin"

Similar to other "List of..." articles for foods, could we add a Wikitable column for "Origin"? Note that many of the descriptions already mention the origin prominently, and many unlisted ones can probably be obtained from the backup articles or sources (if the origin is unknown, just leave that slot blank). The advantage of adding a separate Wikitable column is that the table can be easily sorted, revealing previously unseen patterns and relationships among foods. Reify-tech (talk) 14:49, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Suggestion

I noticed that there was a separate article called list of cheese soups. I think that it might be a good idea to merge them, if there isn't any particular reason not to. Link: List of cheese soups JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (talk) 19:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Complete copyedit cleanup sweep

I just finished a series of marathon edits to add the new "Origin" column and to also do a lot of copyedit cleanups. For starters, I removed a lot of repetitive text such as "A soup made with", and tried to list the primary ingredients and anything that made the soup different or unique, in the "Description" column. The origins listed were derived from the descriptions in this article and/or the Wikilinked articles describing the particular soups. When the origins seemed lost in pre-history, I listed "Ancient", and when the origins were completely unclear or unspecified in the backup article, I left the column blank.

I tried to remove a lot of WP:OVERLINKING (such as links to "fish" or "soup"), but there's still a lot of cleanup needed here. I also judiciously added some Wikilinks, mostly to relatively unusual or unfamiliar ingredients.

There were several soups that explicitly were called "stews" or "potages", and some are also listed in the List of stews article. They probably should be consolidated into that article and removed from here. I also placed a "See also" tag at the top of the article, to clue in readers that there is a related article on stews. The question has been raised whether the "Chunky" "Type" classification is useful or not.

There are also questions about whether the skeletal entries covering various cream soups, bisques, and soup stocks at the end of the table are useful, or should be deleted or spun off into separate tables or articles. Perhaps there ought to just be a mention of these generic types at the top of the article, with a Wikilink pointer to the main articles on these types of soups. Otherwise, the mostly-empty "Cream of" entries could be endlessly expanded to include "aardvark", "elephant", or whatever, bloating the table while conveying little information other than the fact that almost anything edible can be put into a cream soup, or made into a soup stock. I left these questionable entries for now, until a consensus develops on what to do next.

I've probably perpetuated some mistakes from the original article, and perhaps added a few inadvertent ones of my own. Please update or correct entries as needed. The relative lack of references is typical for these "List of..." articles, and is not a problem because the Wikilinked backup articles should be referenced adequately. Nevertheless, the handful of references here can still be useful, and don't hurt anything.

A few of the "Description" sections are too long, and should be trimmed. The purpose of this "List of soups" is to provide an overview and to allow comparisons at a global level, and not to reproduce the detailed coverage of the many backing articles. See MOS:TABLES for more guidance on what should and should not be in a table.

I hope all this work has made this overview article more useful. Please (politely) let me know what you think. Reify-tech (talk) 15:28, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Paprikash and Wedding

Had two more soups not on the list!

Paprikash is an Eastern European Soup and Wedding soup is an Italian regional soup native to Ohio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.134.245.18 (talk) 16:21, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Etrog

Is etrog really the name of a soup? Can't find anything about it.

Cornflakes and milk

@75.172.5.19: Hey Anon,

I noticed you deleted cornflakes and milk from the List of soups article. You said in your edit description that cornflakes and milk doesn't satisfy the definition of a soup. What exactly is the definition of soup that you are going by? According to the article for Soup,

Soup is a primarily liquid food, generally served warm or hot (but may be cool or cold), that is made by combining ingredients of meat or vegetables with stock, juice, water, or another liquid.

Let's go down the list:

• "Primarily liquid" -- Yes. Milk is the main ingredient.

• "May be cool or cold" -- Yes.

• "Made by combining ingredients of meat or vegetables with stock, juice, water, or another liquid" - Yes, corn is a vegetable, and milk is a liquid.

To my eyes, cornflakes and milk satisfies all of these conditions, so it should be considered a soup. Annmygdala (talk) 00:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

@Crazytales: I see that you have reverted my edit, similar to the anonymous user I tagged above, with similar reasoning to them: "cornflakes and milk is not a soup." I respectfully disagree. What do you think about the reasons I have given above? Annnmygdala (talk) 03:13, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

hi Annnmygdala, i appreciate you starting this discussion. the problem with the entry is that, as it is controversial (see edit history) it needs a citation to a reputable source in order to be included in the list. while what you or I think may be clear to us, it is via citations to sources that all may agree on an entry.

so that said, i am going to remove the claim here. if you would like to put it back citing a source that meets wikipedia's criteria, that would be fine with me. Zippy (talk) 19:57, 23 January 2019 (UTC)