Talk:List of storms in the 2006 Pacific hurricane season/John

11E.John

90E.INVEST

Another one up. --Ajm⁸¹ 00:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert 11.6ºN 94.2ºW -- グリフオーザー 23:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

11E.NONAME

25 knots reference to the NRL -- グリフオーザー 02:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

For some reason, it's not on the two primary NRLs, but is on the backup NRL (FNMOC)... -- RattleMan 03:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

It's under "All storms" on NRL for me. – Chacor 03:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

heh was explaining when it told me a conflict in editting.. well the NHC didn't call it TD 11-E at 300am UTC unless they're deciding still. -- グリフオーザー 03:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Man this is one active July & August. Several storms, Bud,Carlotta,Daniel,Emilia, Fabio, Gilma, Hector,Ioke & Illeana now probably 11E (John). Wow.Mitchazenia 14:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Eleven-E

The NHC has it now. -- WmE 15:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

11L.JOHN

The NRL has it at 35 kts now [1]Tropische Storm Sven 19:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

It sure looks like a tropical storm too...looks better than Ernesto does... CrazyC83 20:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Storm John

NHC has named it.--Nilfanion (talk) 20:56, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

The NHC has confirmed it. Alastor Moody _(talk) 21:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Now they are even call this to become another hurricane. --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contributions + userboxes)} 22:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

This thing already looks like its undergoing rapid intensification. It looks like a mid-level tropical storm already. bob rulz 22:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks like it has an hurricane structure, looks like this El Nino is kicking in. --IrfanFaiz 22:29, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

It's almost there. Major hurricane status is also expected. Pobbie Rarr 12:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Hurricane John

The NRL has it up as a 70 kts, 983 mbar hurricane now [2]Tropische Storm Sven 13:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

It looks pretty good too. As for the El Nino comments, I think we are still not there yet but pointing in that direction. This season somewhat reminds me of 1996 in the western hemisphere. CrazyC83 15:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it has a pinhole eye right now. 24.85.160.56 17:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any pinwheel eye, except a micro-sized eyewall. John could also be a re-run of Ileana. --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contribs + userboxes)} 18:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Pinwheel eyes are different. They are the large ones with mesovortices allowing for stunning imagery. As for John, I don't see any eye at all [3]. Pobbie Rarr 18:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The NRL has increased it to 90 kts, 970 mbar now [4]Tropische Storm Sven 19:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Major Hurricane John

The NHC quickly bumped it to 115 mph/960 mbar. CrazyC83 20:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Third time this season that a storm skipped Category 2 status. Ioke, Ileana and now John. Man, this is one active season.Mitchazenia 20:59, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Holy crap, that's 30mb in 12 hours. Not quite Wilma, but spectacular nonetheless. And just how small is that eye? Pobbie Rarr 21:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea, almost as small as Wilma's it appears. I believe that the 960 mbar is way too conservative for a pinhole eye. IIRC, when Wilma was (very briefly between advisories) Cat 3, her pressure was in the 930s. I would guess that the pressure is really in the 940s if they brought a Recon in. CrazyC83 21:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

You can see it in the image I just uploaded. (Although I doubt the intensity from the navy site is correct.) Good kitty 22:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk about skipping Category 2, this EPac season seems to be twice as more active then last year's EPac season. It is surely an active season. --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contribs + userboxes)} 22:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I hate to say, but now, the NHC forecast/advisories show that they are expecting John to be a Category 4 now while paralelling the Mexican coast. --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contribs + userboxes)} 22:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow...this season is turning out to be quite a surprise. Tons of rapidly-intesifying storms and a cat 5 in the Central Pacific... bob rulz 22:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

This season could be a re-run of the 2002 EPac season with regular El Nino conditions. --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contribs + userboxes)} 23:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Since there is a chance of it making landfall, how do we reorganize the articles if one is necessary? 1994's John has a lot of preference right now... CrazyC83 04:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

maybe I don't understand, but wouldn't the article just be 2006 Hurricane John and rename the other to 1994 Hurricane/Typhoon John? -- グリフオーザー 05:15, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Not a question that needs answering until next April. --Golbez 05:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Hurricane John (1994) is fine where it is. However, the redirect, Hurricane John, should be already pointing to the disambiguation page instead, not to the 1994 storm article, as it was not retired. Titoxd^(?!?) 05:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

AN AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT IS CURRENTLY EN-ROUTE TO INVESTIGATE JOHN AND PROVIDE A BETTER ASSESSMENT OF THE INTENSITY. That's very rare in the Eastern Pacific. – Chacor 06:13, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Based on what's on the NHC site, the last time they sent recon to investigate an EPAC storm was last year for Hurricane Adrian. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 06:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's come close enough to land to issue hurricane warnings, so it makes sense. bob rulz 07:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't see a clear eye now. Maybe, too small to be seen. --IrfanFaiz 09:44, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

The lowest pressure recon found earlier was 950 mbar. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 14:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

It's a really ragged system, but it's powerful. That's too close to Mexico for comfort. —BazookaJoe 15:39, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm wondering if we should make an article for it... CrazyC83 15:44, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Stop it with the articles for every single thing. Yes, IMO, John 06 will end up needing and having an article. Point is - not right now. After it dies off. The attitude of "an article for everything" is bad. Plus, in the EPac, very little prep info except Warnings and Watches. – Chacor 15:52, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:CIVIL. All he said was he was wondering. If John moves closer to Mexico, it's possible it could do some serious damage, a la Pauline in 1997. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

What, pray tell, was uncivil about that? Don't use the policy wrongly. I never said "no article". I said "Yes, we will need one". Just NOT RIGHT NOW. – Chacor 16:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree, there was no incivility in what Chacor said. It was something that desperately needed to be stated. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 16:08, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I think you need to say what needs to be said in a calmer way. Your tone in writing can be (mis)interpreted as hostility. I understand that telling people the same thing about policy over and over can be frustrating, but I would feel like this is a more welcome environment if frustrations wouldn't be taken out in this manner. —BazookaJoe 20:07, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Actually, I am shocked an article doesn't exist considering how much press the storm is getting. --Holderca1 20:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Same here. If he comes ashore, it could very well warrant the main article Hurricane John. This has a better chance at retirement than any other storm since 2003. CrazyC83 20:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, I found a lot more info out there, and expanded the article a lot. As you can see, there is a good storm history, and good preparations. I think an article could be warranted soon. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I couldn't resist. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion the ball was dropped on this one. When all the major online news sources, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, BBC, Reuters, ect... have information/articles on their pages, then we should also have an article as well. This meets both notability as well as available information. If someone would of came on here yesterday looking for information, all they would of found was a small paragraph on this page. --Holderca1 12:26, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

This is a great season for the EPAC. We are really blessed to have beautiful storms with great form. I believe that Ioke would be my bride (assuming that's a girls name) if it were human, gorgeous storm.StormChaser666 20:17, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

It won't be a great season for many Mexicans if John decides to stick to the coast. Manzanillo and La Paz (Baja California) could be in trouble, even Los Mochis (Sinaloa, opposite Baja). Pobbie Rarr 20:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

But we know it is bound to be westbound.StormChaser666 20:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Not necessarily. Anyway, where it is now it could dump lots of rain in the mountains and cause dangerous flooding. Pobbie Rarr 20:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

It could possibly make landfall twice as well. --Holderca1 20:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Even a Charley-esque wobble puts John ashore! CrazyC83 20:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

True but it will still eventually move west. Actually I am hoping for that Charley wobble. And is it just me or did Chacor & Hinker just get into an arguement up there??StormChaser666 21:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

About your question StormChaser666, that's really not our place to tell. It's thier matter not ours, but IMO i think so and of course, others joined in. My own question, will John (probably remnants) bring any rain to SoCal, where we need it? guitarhero777777 22:50, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't want to get into that fight, but it is a Category 4 but no clear eye. Pretty messed up system. --IrfanFaiz 00:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow! John is sure a Mexi-cane. --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contribs + userboxes)} 03:01, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

That forecast map shows his eyewall skimming the coast. It may suddenly moved over land and swung back to sea. --IrfanFaiz 08:01, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

What Category 3 with no visible eye?? --IrfanFaiz 08:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I think its getting an eye now. --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contribs + userboxes)} 20:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Naw, its actually in an eyewall replacement cycle along with close encounter with Mexico. --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contribs + userboxes)} 22:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The projected path has John making landfall in the southern Baja Peninsula now. Jamie|C 22:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Radar from Los Cabos [5]. Pobbie Rarr 11:47, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

There is quite of bit of difference in the models. Quite a few are showing a threat to Southern California. When was the last time So Cal was hit by a tropical system? --Holderca1 17:56, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Just found the answer to my own question: 1939 Long Beach Tropical Storm, it's been awhile. --Holderca1 18:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

The radar imagery of John is very impressive now. Los Cabos is in for a rough ride. Pobbie Rarr 18:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Well I live in Los Angeles, South California, but in the ABC 7 news weather forecast, they don't mention a thing about hurricanes or storms coming to LA. But even if it did recurve to hit LA, it would be a remant low when it reaches the shore. --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contribs + userboxes)} 18:44, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Landfall! The eye is coming on coast now! --IrfanFaiz 23:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

As a Socal resident, who lives well inland, I sort of hope this thing hits socal as a ts or something for two reasons: History + We need rain!!guitarhero777777 00:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

• That thing looks like it getting into the Gulf of California. The warm SSTs there do not make for an encouraging forecast, if it does decide to follow it. Titoxd^(?!?) 06:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
  • I think it was Jeff Masters who mentioned that it is possible for a hurricane to go up the Gulf of California, but it would be a verrry tricky dance to keep from "smashing itself against the rocky sides", which I thought was a fun metaphor, comparing it to a boat. To have any effect on the US, a storm would have to move quickly and precisely through the Gulf, not something that's easily done - but not exactly impossible, either. --Golbez 07:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Latest advisory excerpts:

MOISTURE FROM JOHN IS SPREADING INTO THE SOUTHWESTERN UNITED STATES
OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO
YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE
MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

THE NOGAPS AND UKMET SUGGEST THE CIRCULATION WILL REMAIN
INTACT ENOUGH TO TAKE THE SYSTEM INTO THE SOUTHWESTERN UNITED

STATES AS A WEAKENING DEPRESSION.

And the latest WFO statements:

...REMNANTS OF HURRICANE JOHN TO AFFECT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WEATHER
LABOR DAY AND TUESDAY..
THE REMNANTS OF FORMER HURRICANE JOHN WILL LIKELY BRING LARGE
AMOUNTS OF MOISTURE ALOFT OVER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA LABOR DAY AND
TUESDAY.

...INCREASING CHANCE FOR SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WITH HEAVY
RAIN...FROM HURRICANE JOHNS MOISTURE REMNANTS...EXPECTED ACROSS
SOUTHEAST CALIFORNIA...AND SOUTHWEST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ARIZONA

THROUGH TUESDAY...

Southern CA and SW AZ are in for some TC moisture... – Chacor 14:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Uh oh! I better forget about going to the first day of school on September 6 and run for my life! --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contribs + userboxes)} 19:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

You start school the 6th! Lucky! I've been in school for 3 weeks. Back to the subject, I really don't think the Los Angeles area (where I live) will get any rain (we didn't from Emily's remains even though San Bernadino did, i think.). The forecast calls for extreme southeastern California to get rain. If you live in that area Alastor, then maybe you have some concern, but as for me, the system will curve out west before it effects me. A side note, has anyone added this to California hurricanes yet? If not, should I?guitarhero777777 00:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Not yet. Better wait until John is dead. Pobbie Rarr 01:25, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Oops... I forgot to mention I actually live in Los Angeles, but you never know what a tropical cyclone may do (even with its remants, like hurricane Mitch). --§ Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody _{(talk + contribs + userboxes)} 06:00, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

You do never know. They've been predicting John to move west for days and it still hasn't happened yet. So We could get some rain here in L.A. area.guitarhero777777 16:14, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Remnants are hitting west Texas and New Mexico, which is suprising to me.guitarhero777777 17:14, 4 September 2006 (UTC)