Talk:List of summer colonies
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editI've never heard the term summer colony in the US --AW 18:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't know who has been editing this page, but they don't seem to know the real meaning of a summer colony". A "summer colony" is not Asbury Park, New Jersey, or any similar popular (or once-popular, now-fading) place where people go in the summer. A "summer colony" is a popular seasonal spot, but it also implies wealth and exclusivity, hence the list -- while being subjective -- should be much shorter than it is here.
Direction
editI'd like this article to:
- Summarize what a summer colony is, their history, their reputation. Also globalize, this is probably a "cold winter / humid summer" kind of thing but lots of places have such weather. I really only am familiar with the US/Canadian sense although I recall hearing the Russian sense mentioned in novels and short stories. Perhaps it exists in other cultures as well?
- List well-known summer colonies. This is difficult to source but not impossible (as I'm demonstrating) but will require some common sense.
Any other thoughts? --W.marsh 00:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- when I saw it I was thinking primarily not of the artsy upper-class retreats described here, but the plebeian ones in the Catskills that I knew as a child. The Russian dachas are I think not necessarily in any particular place far away from the city to the extent of those here. The topic merges into country homes, second houses, etc. There's a number of general books, besides articles--I had one or two in mind, & I had been thinking just of adding them. We may be getting ourselves into something larger than we thought. First step may be to look at related articles.Maybe someone has already done it. DGG (talk) 01:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- This article so far just refers to the kind of "old money" Summer colony, see the excerpt I quoted "In the Imperial language of the time, Bar Harbor was a summer colony, and its local residents were natives". Think about that... imperial, colony, natives. You're right that it's probably larger than we thought, but I will stick with it since it seems interesting. dacha should probably be a "see also" link... maybe "Summer Colony" is just a north American thing. It's interesting what you bring up about the Catskills (I had Land Between the Lakes now that I think about it) although those are more touristy summer rentals, vacation spots... the "imperial colony" thing might really have something to it that the current article doesn't explore properly. I mean, actual gilded age-era settlements with specific attributes and relationships with the locals... not just the summer vacation spots du jour. --W.marsh 01:30, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- when I saw it I was thinking primarily not of the artsy upper-class retreats described here, but the plebeian ones in the Catskills that I knew as a child. The Russian dachas are I think not necessarily in any particular place far away from the city to the extent of those here. The topic merges into country homes, second houses, etc. There's a number of general books, besides articles--I had one or two in mind, & I had been thinking just of adding them. We may be getting ourselves into something larger than we thought. First step may be to look at related articles.Maybe someone has already done it. DGG (talk) 01:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
australia
editI'm no good at editing wikipedia but I have a short list of some australian towns/regions that would qualify. I am from sydney so there will be a NSW bias here:
- Terrigal
- Leura, New South Wales
- Berry, New South Wales
- Pacific Palms, New South Wales
- Hunter Region
- Rottnest Island <-- this one is interesting as a case of whitewashing atrocities against indigenous people by turning an aboriginal internment camp into an upscale resort.
- King Island (Tasmania)
- Gold Coast, Queensland <-- this one is debatable these days as it is now such a large settlement that it is like the 6th or 7th largest city in the country