Talk:List of tallest buildings in Israel
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Meier on Rotschild
editThere is many net proof that the comeete of buildings (ועדה מחוזית) gave permition to extent the building from 155 m to 180 m. People told that its above sea level and not ground level. Lets say that they are telling the truth. 180 meters above sea level how much height is above ground level? The height of Alenby st. corner of Rotschild blvd in Tel aviv is between 12 to 15 meters. Lets say 15 m. Thus the new height of that building supose to be 165 meters.
http://www.calcalist.co.il/real_estate/articles/0,7340,L-3517133,00.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.116.232.69 (talk) 14:28, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Elite Tower
editThe Elite Tower is not under construction. Also, I believe that U/C buildings should be separated from proposed/approved, which usually means they'll never materialize, and often there's no accurate render. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 21:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. The Elite Tower site has been cleared - what does it need to be classed as U/C? I didnt include proposed buildings, only those which are approved/awaiting construction/uc. Maybe a seperate article for all not yet under construction plus those which never are constructed/approved? Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what reliable sources say (haven't really dug deep), so I'm not changing the article yet, but it is known within skyscraper-fan circles that the construction of the Elite Tower has far from started. Recently, Shaya Boymelgreen, the entrepreneur who wants to build the tower, also bought an adjacent lot in order to possibly make it a larger tower which will have 100 floors. However, right now the plan is 80 floors. In other words, there's no definite plan yet, so I can't see how construction can start. Also the site has not been entirely cleared (I'm not talking about the frontal structure which will be renovated, but another structure in the lot). I believe it will take anywhere from months to years before the cornerstone is laid/the foundations are dug. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- OK - JPOST says it is demolished - I can change it to approved? [1] Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, approved would be fine. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- OK - JPOST says it is demolished - I can change it to approved? [1] Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what reliable sources say (haven't really dug deep), so I'm not changing the article yet, but it is known within skyscraper-fan circles that the construction of the Elite Tower has far from started. Recently, Shaya Boymelgreen, the entrepreneur who wants to build the tower, also bought an adjacent lot in order to possibly make it a larger tower which will have 100 floors. However, right now the plan is 80 floors. In other words, there's no definite plan yet, so I can't see how construction can start. Also the site has not been entirely cleared (I'm not talking about the frontal structure which will be renovated, but another structure in the lot). I believe it will take anywhere from months to years before the cornerstone is laid/the foundations are dug. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Table styles
editWhat's wrong with the default Wikitable class? Why was the style changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ynhockey (talk • contribs) 21:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- I based this upon List of tallest buildings and structures in London which was the best example of this list I could find in terms of fields etc. Visually I think it is more accessible also. There is no technical reason. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 18:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- I prefer the regular Wikitable class, which is also consistent with most tables on Wikipedia. However, I will not change the article before trying out the style on a sandbox page. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Tallest proposed section
editLooking again at this entire section, I think it should be removed. Most of it is based on a compilation source from several years ago, which has little connection to reality today. Many towers are/were approved before tenders are publisher, so the 'approved' height and floor figures might also be incorrect (although they have to be close to avoid having to get a new permit). Thoughts? -- Ynhockey (Talk) 14:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe another look through emporis or some other website...I am sure some things have changed over last few years. Any other sites worth looking at? Chumchum14 (talk) 08:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Central Park Towers
editAccording to Emporis, their height is 102 m each. This does not seem logical at all, and the previous figure of 117 m seemed much more logical for 30 or 31 floors—but there was no source for it. Can anyone find the original source? —Ynhockey (Talk) 21:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Splitting the list
editI would like to split the top list because it's too large and it's a pain to always change ranks, and also there are so many 100+ residential towers now that the list is not interesting. I suggest splitting it into two lists (in the same article of course), one which will be X meters and above, and the other one—100 to X meters. The problem is that I can't decide on X. Since I view the Shalom Tower as the standard gauge, 120 m should do IMO. However, any suggestions are welcome. —Ynhockey (Talk) 19:24, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
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Buildings below 120 m
editI was trying to update this list and realized that in terms of 100–120 m buildings, there are probably several dozen not on this list. In almost every major city, there are some new apartment buildings of this height, including Ashdod, Netanya, Petah Tikva and others. I suggest to therefore remove this category from the list. —Ynhockey (Talk) 08:10, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Is the tallest building Azrieli Sarona or Moshe Aviv?
editBoth CTBUH citations say that Moshe Aviv is the tallest building in Israel, and Emporis comes to the same conclusion. Which one is actually taller?
henrysz ▪ 💬 ▪ 📜 01:07, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Moshe Aviv Tower is 235 m from the main entrance, but 244 m from a side entrance. As far as I know, this makes it "officially" 235 m, i.e. shorter than Azrieli Sarona Tower. We can add a comment though. —Ynhockey (Talk) 20:38, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Leonardo City Tower Israel's Tallest Hotel-Only Building?
editIn the "Tallest buildings by Usage" section, the Leonardo City Tower Hotel is listed as the tallest hotel in Israel. The problem with that is the tower's upper half (floors 19 and above) is permanent luxury residential apartments. For that reason, it really shouldn't count as 100% hotel, and never was (even while it operated as a Sheraton).
The actual tallest hotel-only buildings in Israel could be any of these: Crowne Plaza in Jerusalem (93 m), Dan Panorama Hotel in Haifa (85 m), Island Suites Hotel in Netanya (104 m), and Royal Beach Tel Aviv (100 m). Anyone want to correct this? Jim856796 (talk) 16:06, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- How about Isrotel Tower in Tel Aviv (108 m) – does it have additional usages? —Ynhockey (Talk) 20:28, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Article wiping
editThe majority of content on this list has been wiped recently, for unclear reasons (one of the edit summaries reads "Edit: only 20 tallest towers in Israel"). Not only was the content removed, but the little prose and headings in the list has not been updated accordingly. @Qplb191 please explain your edits, or restore the list to its original form. In addition, until now we haven't put buildings that are not fully completed on the list, but Seven Stars Tower was added regardless. I suggest removing topped-out towers, even though they might technically have the same height. This is to make the list easier to maintain. —Ynhockey (Talk) 20:32, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Fun71528: Discuss your desired changes to the article here. Adakiko (talk) 22:21, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- @CitizenX73, Qplb191, and Ynhockey: Please discuss article changes here. If not familiar with such a discussion, please see wp:BRD and get wp:consensus before making potentially controversial changes. Thank you Adakiko (talk) 22:26, 24 August 2022 (UTC)