Talk:List of television series based on DC Comics publications
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Move
editIn line with the broader naming conventions I'd suggest this needs to be at List of television programs based on DC Comics. (Emperor 17:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC))
I'm a Marvel, and I'm a DC
editwhy was this series taken out from the list? it's a series and it's based on dc comics characters.85.179.108.15 (talk) 13:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't know the exact reasoning, but I do want to point out it's not a official product from any REAL studio. The series is a YouTube series made by a guy at his house with no real support from either DC or Marvel comics, nor Warner Brothers Studios, DC Entertainment or Marvel Entertainment. JAR Head 06:45, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Proposed move to List of television programs based on DC Comics
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was no move. JPG-GR (talk) 01:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
This move is suggested to bring this list inline with the other lists of media based on media. Currently the naming convention goes with television program for anything that is not a television series article. LA (T) @ 22:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support "programs" is more general and a term I've used elsewhere on similar articles and suggested it above over a year ago!! (Emperor (talk) 14:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC))
- Oppose - per conventions at WP:NC-TV. - jc37 23:12, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Others in Progress
editI would like to point out that there are two other shows in progress besides Wonder Woman, Blue Beetle, and The Raven. A while back, Vertigo's Sandman series writer, Neil Gaiman confirmed he was talking with WB and DC to make a show for HBO. Here's the most recent article I can find on the series as of now: http://screenrant.com/neil-gaiman-the-sandman-tv-series-rob-76577/ The second is a Captain Marvel/Power of SHAZAM! TV show. In August 2010, Los Angeles Times reported that discussions had begun to possibly cancel the theatrical movie and do a live action series for prime time network television instead (This information can be found on the Captain Marvel (DC comics) page, here on Wikipedia in the "Films" section). JAR Head 06:59, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
A New Global Frequency
editGot this off the Global Frequency article in the section talking about the unaired TV series. "In November 2009, Production Weekly's Twitter feed revealed that a new television adaptation of Global Frequency was being worked on by The CW Television Network and writer Scott Nimerfro." I want to add, the Captain Marvel/Power of SHAZAM TV show wasn't added to the list of shows in some sort of production (As mentioned from my last update above this one). JAR Head 14:16, 11 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Foretboy3000 (talk • contribs)
young justice infinite
editwhat is this when i look it up i get nothing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.240.59 (talk) 16:55, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- It was actually an April Fools prank at the Young Justice wikia, here. The reference to it in this Wikipedia article has been removed. Emayv (talk) 08:36, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
the spectre
editWhat is the deal with the spectre? Was there actually confirmation that it's happening in 2013? Should there be a link? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.94.189.229 (talk) 19:42, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
More to add
editMore things to add to the list. It includes Zatanna, a web series. There was another of these called Gotham Girls that happened in the same continuity as the 90s Batman cartoons. Also Gotham High, an aborted cartoon about all of the Batman heroes and villains back during their school years (Sounds as retarded as it likely would've been, but it was in the planning stages with mock ups of the cast and so on created for it). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.113.166 (talk) 09:29, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Arrowverse page
edit@Favre1fan93: @Ditto51: @Bignole: ok, the name of the third live action series was confirmed to be DC's Legends of Tomorrow, so we essentially have right now 2 ongoing and 2 upcoming names series and we IMO have enough info to green light the movement of the Arrowverse draft page to the main space. I just want to talk to you guys and/or ladies about that. can we have like a voting to determine the movement?? because I am for it. also, if we move it to the main space we can write instead of "Part of the same universe as Arrow and The Flash" write "Part of the Arrowverse" and link it.The Ouroboros, the Undying, the Immortal (talk) 20:59, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
- A) we don't take votes on Wikipedia. We form consensus. B) It's not a matter of how many shows are ongoing and how many are upcoming. I don't think we are at a point where the page is ready for mainspace inclusion. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:02, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
New Justice League series
editCould someone add this to the Upcoming section?
It shows the details of a new animated series based on the League themselves.ZeEnergizer (talk) 03:10, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
BS
editDoes anyone know if Blindspot (TV series) is based on a DC comic?
- "My main reason for the show existing in the Arrowverse, is that Greg Berlanti is an executive producer. But the show is based off a story in DC Comics."
I read this in an article but can't confirm it. 184.145.18.50 (talk) 21:24, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- It's an original show. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 06:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Constantine in the Arrowverse
editI am starting this because there seems to be a staunch resistance to listing 'Constantine' as part of the Arrowverse. I am getting into an editing war with various users who have reverted my change (which yes, I ignored the code "comment" saying to NOT add it as part of the arrowverse). Since, when the crossover was announced they unequivocally stated that it was the same incarnation I edited the page to say that it was retroactively made part of the arrowverse. I can't see how this is considered incorrect. I have provided a citation. Let me place this quote for confirmation. "In terms of whether we should assume that this is firmly considered the same version of Constantine from his own series (and thus retroactively linking the Constantine series to the Arrow-verse), Mericle said, “Absolutely. He is coming in fully as who he was on the show. We’re getting wardrobe. We’re very excited to have him. He’s a tremendous actor. It’s so cool to have that cross-pollination. We are very lucky and DC was very generous letting us have him.” This is straight from the showrunners. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midshipmanx (talk • contribs) 05:13, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah. That he is the same as he was on Constantine. The bit before is the IGN writer creating that assumption/speculation. As you've been told, see Talk:List of Arrowverse actors where this has been discussed in full (possibly on Talk:Arrowverse too). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 14:11, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
- Constantine has the same business cards with the same phone number in both Arrow and his own show; the Ibis Stick appears in both Legends of Tomorrow and in the cottage in the Constantine pilot (right behind the Helmet of Doctor Fate); the magazine "Science Showcase" appears in Arrow S2, Flash S1 and Constantine; and Constantine references restoring a soul once before on his Arrow appearance (A reference to the Constantine episode "Quid Pro Quo"). There's nothing in either show that absolutely precludes them existing in the same universe.
Pilots Supergirl
editThere was pilot of the 2015 Supergirl TV Series leaked ahead of its series premiere. The leaked pilot had a few differences from the aired pilot. Some of them are listed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/supergirlTV/comments/3r89f7/is_there_a_difference_between_leak_pilot_and_the/
Since this is a different version than the one aired, I believe it should be included in the pilot section. I made this addition, but my edit was reverted by another user. Please discuss.Goldeneyed (talk) 21:04, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- Supergirl received a series order. That is the only place it should be on this article. The "leaked" pilot and the eventual series are one in the same, despite any differences. If they were completely different (ie the original pilot for The Big Bang Theory was a totally different show than what eventually aired) that would be a proper reason to include in the pilot section here. Anything regarding differences in how the episode actually aired, should be noted on the series or episode page in question. Additionally, all information must come from reliable sources, of which Reddit is not. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:21, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Young Justice revival
editYoung Justice is listed in both the finished list and upcoming list. It's simply the same show having been revived, so while technically not "ongoing" it should still be in that list because production is simply being resumed (the next season will be 3, not back to 1). A note can be made that it was cancelled and then renewed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk • contribs)
Since we have a digital section now, should we split the old Young Justice seasons into the TV animated section, then put the new season 3 in the digital section? Or just keep it where it is? -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 01:00, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Verified Titans link
editVerified the upcoming streaming Titans series link, this redirects to the references section of the article of the Teen Titans.OscarFercho (talk) 13:35, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Imprints
editThere is a section for shows based on imprints but iZombie is listed in the main table when it has every reason to be in the imprints table since it's a Vertigo title. Constantine could theoretically fit in either table since the property it's based on has been both a Vertigo and DC title. There is also a lack of mention of what imprint Isis is from. NTC TNT (talk) 19:13, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Add a colour key for ‘arrowverse ’ tv series(Legends of Tomorrow, Arrow and the Flash) and for series that have been put in after one or more seasons or ended(eg black lightning if it does end up establishing a link, Constantine and Supergirl—adding a note that Supergirl is linked via multiverse which than in the arrow-uni-verse) so that the notes can removed about them being in the arrowverse shortening the length of the list which will become longer as more series get produced that are based on DC Comics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:464E:7400:54CD:1A25:B5D9:F490 (talk) 20:47, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Arrowverse shows
editAdd a colour key for linked tv series. Arrowvers tv series are current the only ones i can see the key can have 2 shades of a colour for series that are in the arrowverse from the start (arrow-where it started-, Legends of Tomorrow and The Flash even the web series/animated series can have the same colour code in line with the live action series)and series that have been added in after one or more seasons or ended so that the note can removed about them being in the Arrowverse. This shortens the length of the list which will become longer as more series and interconnected series get produced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:464E:7400:54CD:1A25:B5D9:F490 (talk) 21:14, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
TV shows in development with 2-3 year old sources
editSeveral shows have been reported to be in development, but sources for them are from 2014/2015 and there are no sources confirming them going on, they are like forgoten. Those shows are:
- Ronin = last source 2014
- Hashtag4Hero = last source 2014
- Static Shock = last source 2014 (ITS DEAD)
- DC's hero project = last source 2015
- DMZ = last source 2015
- Amped = last source 2015
- Red = = last source 2015
- Unfollow = last source 2016
Should those shows be deleted from the table considering that absolutely nothing new has been reported about them??Phoenix (talk) 18:39, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Maybe just hide them, not outright delete them, in case something does ever come of it? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:32, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
DC Daily
editWould we really consider this to be based on a DC Comics property? It's a news program, after all, not an adaptation of any sort. —NinjaTazzyDevil (talk) 13:03, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- Maybe move it to the "See also" section, because you are correct, it is not "based on" anything from DC. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:25, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Titans and Doom Patrol
editWould anyone have a problem if i listed Titans and Doom Patrol as part of the titansverse in the notes of these shows as i have seen several fans and youtubers call there universe this, as the arrowverse name started the same way? TheMBProject (talk) 02:42, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Secret Six status
edit@Cardei012597: Hello. It seems it's, in fact, time to move the Secret Six project to the List of unproduced DC Comics projects, cause there's no more news since the announcement six months ago.OscarFercho (talk) 01:10, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Ok, I'll do that now. Cardei012597 (talk) 01:22, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
The Boys
editThe Boys is not a DC TV show. It is an independent publication not in any way owned by DC and was only published by Wildstorm for 6 issue (out of more than 72). Dynamite published the comic which is owned by Ennis. Amazon Studios are behind the series. DC comics are not involved and have not been involved in any way since those 6 issues. The Boys is no more a DC show than The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is a DC film (a few issue of which were published under Wildstorm). -- 109.79.84.158 (talk) 20:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- Prove me wrong but don't claim my edits are vandalism, and please follow the WP:SIMPLE rules and don't revert without any explanation.[2] [3]. I have followed the WP:SIMPLE rules and provided edit summaries and I have written expanded comments here to try to make it as clear as possible why it is factually incorrect to include the Boys on this list.
- If there is any evidence that DC has any ownership or involvement I'd be interested to see it. I understand most DC projects are owned by DC, I understand titles like Preacher and Constantine and Hitman are owned by DC and that there are very few exceptions but this is the exception that proves the rule. The Boys was creator owned and only published under Wildstorm for a handful of issues, all rights reverted to Ennis and the series changed publisher to Dynamite. The Boys doesn't belong on this list any more than Alan Moore's The League of Extraordinary Gentleman would belong on the list of DC films, because it too was creator owned, and only briefly published under Wildstorm. DC are simply not involved in any way. -- 109.79.176.69 (talk) 15:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
This discussion has no basis. We have always maintained a strong baseline that if the first issue of a comic book series is published by DC or its owned subsidaries (Vertigo, Wildstorm), any and all adaptations are automatically considered a "DC Adaptation". If I gather your position correctly, "it is that later on, if a comic series is no longer owned or published by DC after its first issue, any adaptation shouldn't be on here." I disagree with this argument. We always maintain that in order to be a DC, or Vertigo/Wildstorm, adaptation, the comic series MUST have had its first issue published by DC, or Vertigo/Wildstorm. If you disagree with this, I can bring in many administrators who also believe in this position. Cardei012597 (talk) 22:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Another side note is that comparing this issue with The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or other pages on enwiki is really quite sad, if you feel like you have a opinion on a different wiki article, you are free to discuss it on that article's talk page. Cardei012597 (talk) 22:23, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- It is sad that you didn't say this before now, and that you accused me of vandalism, and didn't bother to follow the WP:SIMPLE rules and explain yourself in an edit summary at any point before now, but better late than never.
- You say first issue published by DC makes it a DC adaptation. You say this is an established policy. If you can link to guidelines or discussion where this consensus was reached I'd certainly like to see it.
- Also it is not clear why you insist on using abbreviations without tagging them using Template:Abbr. -- 109.79.91.135 (talk) 17:15, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
The discussions, regarding the long standing policy, were archived a while ago. If I remember correctly, this issue was also discussed regarding the Red Sonja film, whether it should be considered based on a Marvel comic. I have never learned how to access the archives (I never needed to access them in the first place). I just know the issue was discussed from both Marvel and DC pages, later archived. There are administrators who can find them, if its important to bring them here. Cardei012597 (talk) 20:51, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- There was a discussion about Red Sonja and Men In Black. In the case of Red Sonja it was licensed and adapted. In the case of Men In Black the rights were bought by Marvel. In both those cases Marvel has ownership, that is not the same. That looked like a discussion that eventually reached consensus, it doesn't look like a "long standing policy". They weren't making the argument you are making, that a comic counts as a DC or Marvel adaptation because the first issue was published by them.
- The Boys is different, creator owned and was only temporarily printed by DC it wasn't owned by DC.
- I would still like to see a third opinion and clarification on this claim that first issue published under the Wildstorm imprint makes it forever "based on a DC comic". -- 109.79.91.135 (talk) 22:57, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- Still interested to see those opinions from those many administrators you said could find the information. It shouldn't be difficult for Cardei012597 or others to show these policies. They don't seem to be as clear as was claimed. -- 109.76.195.16 (talk) 21:45, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
Arrowverse adjacent abuse
editWhen it comes to the Arrowverse, it seems like everything can be adjacent to it. But we should be very specific on this page, as it's pretty much going wild in the reality of the situation. What shows should be considered part of the Arrowverse on The CW are Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Legends of the Tomorrow (perhaps some kind of Constantine note), and any other spin-off that comes out of it, as well the animated Arrowverse shows done for the CW Seed, like Vixen and The Ray (not sure what the canon of Deathstroke is), otherwise this whole page might as well just be merged with Arrowverse. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 15:34, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Projects in development
editWe need to include projects only announced? Like The Batman spin off, Strange Adventures, Superman & Lois, before start its preproduction? We don't know the real status of these series.OscarFercho (talk) 00:34, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Cardei012597:, @Favre1fan93:, thoughts?
- I don't know what you're asking. Everything looks fine as it is on the article. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 13:45, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- It does seem like "television episode pages", like DC and Marvel, do tend to include projects that have not begun filming or pass any version of WP:NFF, even though its highly agreed on to keep such projects off the "List of films" pages until filming commences. I hope this kind of run-on sentence made sense. I hope to simplify this long train of thought with this: On "List of films based on Marvel (DC) comics publications", it is not permitted to add films that have not begun filming. On "List of television series based on Marvel (DC) comics publications" it is ok, and allowed, to include projects that have not begun filming. I think what Oscar is trying to get across is why is that? Why are television shows in pre-production allowed on these pages, when pre-production films are clearly not allowed? I hope this thought process clears it up. I, honestly, do not truly know why this is the case... I do hope others can clear this situation up. Cardei012597 (talk) 04:55, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, is that. We don't know if those projects are in preproduction or not. Remember the case of Secret Six project, never saw the light.OscarFercho (talk) 03:44, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- It does seem like "television episode pages", like DC and Marvel, do tend to include projects that have not begun filming or pass any version of WP:NFF, even though its highly agreed on to keep such projects off the "List of films" pages until filming commences. I hope this kind of run-on sentence made sense. I hope to simplify this long train of thought with this: On "List of films based on Marvel (DC) comics publications", it is not permitted to add films that have not begun filming. On "List of television series based on Marvel (DC) comics publications" it is ok, and allowed, to include projects that have not begun filming. I think what Oscar is trying to get across is why is that? Why are television shows in pre-production allowed on these pages, when pre-production films are clearly not allowed? I hope this thought process clears it up. I, honestly, do not truly know why this is the case... I do hope others can clear this situation up. Cardei012597 (talk) 04:55, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- I don't know what you're asking. Everything looks fine as it is on the article. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 13:45, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- However, I do highly recommend that others participate in this discussion and form a consensus, before you, or I, make any changes to the television pages, regarding this situation. Cardei012597 (talk) 01:25, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, I don't allow any intentions of change nothing without consensous.OscarFercho (talk) 04:34, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- However, I do highly recommend that others participate in this discussion and form a consensus, before you, or I, make any changes to the television pages, regarding this situation. Cardei012597 (talk) 01:25, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Dears. I insist, I think we need to remove the subsection of "In development" shows, it's very unprecisely the real state of those shows.OscarFercho (talk) 01:03, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Projects in development with no update
editI just want to know how many time a project in development must keep in this list without any update.OscarFercho (talk) 05:17, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello @Favre1fan93:, what we can do with projects in development without any update?, like The Green Arrow and the Canaries. How much time must keep in the list? Thank You. Kr.OscarFercho (talk) 05:47, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- They should remain until a source states they've been shelved or otherwise. And as far as I'm aware, Green Arrow and the Canaries is still being considered by the CW. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:06, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- @OscarFercho: Here are 2 source: from TVLine's Painkiller reveal and a commentary piece from Comicbook.com. The project is still not officially dead so please stop using your own opinions on it and removing it. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:30, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- They should remain until a source states they've been shelved or otherwise. And as far as I'm aware, Green Arrow and the Canaries is still being considered by the CW. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:06, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
That's not reliable sources and just mention about the possibility of the Project.OscarFercho (talk) 15:42, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- I don't mean to interject but I'd just like to say that all in development projects are potential, and that when they're announced by a network as being "in development" it means that scripts are being worked on and in some cases pilots are being filmed for executives to decide if they think the project should move forward with a series order or not. A lot of projects can spend years if not decades in development so just because a year has passed since this project was first announced it doesn't mean that it's never going to happen. It explicitly states in this article (which is a reliable source btw) that (and I quote) "there are still "conversations" being had" about the project. And this is indeed an update. Apd9696 (talk) 15:59, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Apd9696: Yes exactly. Us as editors and readers can not interject our own thoughts of "well there hasn't been any updates in X amount of time, the project must be dead". We need sources to confirm either way that a project is still happen by being picked up or being considered, or is indeed dead. And if for some chance those never come, after a lengthy time has passed, it can be reevaluated for its inclusion here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:04, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- That source just mentions previous information, it's not an update as well. How many time we need wait to consider a project as not current in development? two, three, five years?OscarFercho (talk) 01:49, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Apd9696: Yes exactly. Us as editors and readers can not interject our own thoughts of "well there hasn't been any updates in X amount of time, the project must be dead". We need sources to confirm either way that a project is still happen by being picked up or being considered, or is indeed dead. And if for some chance those never come, after a lengthy time has passed, it can be reevaluated for its inclusion here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:04, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Name
editMust we keep the name of this article or need change to someone like "List of television and On Demand series based on DC"?
@Favre1fan93: @Cardei012597:, thoughts.OscarFercho (talk) 04:26, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Personally, I think this page name is fine as it is, simce the On demand series still fall under "television series", as they are all episodes on a television (or at home), rather than full length films. The page name still works for the series filmed material that are not films. Cardei012597 (talk) 05:10, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Some like "List of series based on DC Commics..."?, clearly not all of the new series are televsion series.OscarFercho (talk) 02:22, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Name is fine as is, as it covers the medium, not the delivery method. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Some like "List of series based on DC Commics..."?, clearly not all of the new series are televsion series.OscarFercho (talk) 02:22, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Batgirl pilot
editThere's never a Batgirl pilot, that's a mistake. It was a promotional short, mistaken listed as a pilot.
[4] Must be removed of this list.OscarFercho (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Even if it's not considered a pilot, it should still be listed *somewhere* on this page, not just outright deleted. I think listing it as an unaired pilot is appropriate, since it sort of served as a pilot episode for Season 3 of Batman (although only internally, since it never aired and isn't officially an episode of the show), but if not that then what section should it be in? None of the other existing sections seem appropriate. ShyKen (talk) 00:08, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, I just checked the Special Features in my Batman collection, and that literally lists it as "Batgirl Pilot". If Warner Brothers themselves consider it a pilot that's good enough for me, tbh. ShyKen (talk) 00:19, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- But is a short promotional, a commercial, not a pilot.OscarFercho (talk) 01:42, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- You're just re-iterating what you said before without even acknowledging anything I said.
- It is absolutely not a "commercial" (there is a commercial in the source linked above, but that is not what I am talking about). It was not used for advertisement. It was a presentation created to show how a 3rd season of Batman would work with a new character/formula, and convince the studio executives to run another season. The only reason this is ambiguous because it was tied to an existing series rather than kicking off a new series. As far as I can tell this doesn't happen very often and there's no standard or commonly-used term for this, though I still strongly feel that this absolutely fits the definition of a pilot. In any case, as I said before it still absolutely should be listed on this page somewhere, so the way I see it we can either;
- Find/invent a term for "basically a pilot but it's for a new season of a show that previously ran for two seasons", and create a whole section just for that, OR
- Just call it a pilot, because that's what it is, and as mentioned before WB officially lists it as a pilot in the Batman 'The Complete Television Series' collection This seems very open-and-shut to me.
- ShyKen (talk) 02:23, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Maybe with a note?OscarFercho (talk) 01:51, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- Care to elaborate on that suggestion at all? I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.
- I'm trying to work with you, but I don't know what else there is to talk about at this point (I still don't really get why the thing was even deleted in the first place), and, frankly, your responses in this discussion so far have been pretty lackluster, especially considering you're the one who initiated this. If there is more to discuss here, I would appreciate more detailed responses from you so that we can maybe actually resolve this. ShyKen (talk) 04:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- With a note in the last cell, clearing the detail about that short.OscarFercho (talk) 05:26, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Why this page doesn't have superman 1948 series live_action?
editI was searching about Superman and I found out Superman have an old live_action series in 1948. And it's not here in "full dc series" Hosein.Ghanavati (talk) 08:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Serials are listed on the 'Films based on DC Comics' page: List of films based on DC Comics publications#Serials and short films ShyKen (talk) 23:07, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Stargirl
edit@OscarFercho - re:Why exactly date?
The reason I included the specific date in WP of the last episode (which came from the source article I cited) was so that on or after that date, some editor would know to move Stargirl out of the Ongoing section of this article and place it up with other now-cancelled shows such as Naomi. There's no telling if I will personally remember to make that change or not (more than a month from now), and I wanted to leave it as a reminder for others. And I certainly didn't see any harm in putting the date there (esp. since the entire "Ending when..." part of the note - the part I added - ought to be removed once the show is actually finished and it gets moved out of the Ongoing section). But we can leave the date off if that's your preference. Just trying to help all-around. DiscoBookworm (talk) 11:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- But is in fact irrelevant. The series will conclude in a month an a half, that's a temporary note. Is done.OscarFercho (talk) 00:25, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- Why talk like I'm being confrontational with you, when I already said I'd go with your preference? I said it was meant to be temporary, and why. But I'll go away and let you make the necessary Stargirl edit in a month and a half, okay? Good luck. DiscoBookworm (talk) 01:55, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Unaired Pilots for Aired Shows - When do we list them?
editI've noticed a bit of an inconsistency with the unaired pilots that we have listed. We have the unaired pilot for Human Target, but we don't have the unaired pilot for Birds of Prey (I saw someone add the BoP pilot a while ago, but it was removed, so I assume this is an intentional choice). In both cases, the unaired pilot is largely the same as the one that ended up airing with the same script and most of the same footage, just with some reshoots due to re-casting of secondary characters and a few minor differences (Human Target's editing and music are a bit different, Birds of Prey adds extra narration to the beginning of the episode). So, why do we have Human Target and not Birds of Prey?
Personally I don't consider either to be a distinct piece of content, so if it was up to me I'd remove the Human Target pilot, but either way we should be consistent about this. ShyKen (talk) 15:34, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- I think it's primarily cause the Human Target pilot was done a couple of years before the show was ordered and involved significant reshoots, the new version is considerably different.. while Birds of Prey was mostly the same and was done within the same pilot season. Spanneraol (talk) 21:01, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Batman and the Super 7
editI noticed Batman and the Super 7 was removed from the list. Why is that?Sparkles32 (talk) 18:34, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
Should we purge some of the things in the "in development" sections?
editToday, DC unveiled their slate for upcoming series' and films for the next few years. While the announcements are clearly not a comprehensive list, some of the in development series' listed in this article that were not mentioned are particularly notable to be absent from the slate. Some of these projects have not received any kind of update in over a year, in some cases several years now, most notably the live-action DC Super Hero High (was announced over 3 years ago, no updates since), the Justice League Dark series, the Val-Zod series, and the Aqualad series.
Under normal conditions it might be acceptable to simply leave these as is until we can officially confirm that they've been cancelled, but between the shakeups caused by the WB/Discovery merger last year, the shakeups within DC itself in the last few months, the fact that there's been no news about some of these since before the shakeups, DC's tendency to quietly scrap projects without a formal announcement (I was looking into Secret Six the other day, the only way we know that's cancelled was a random reply tweet that has since been deleted. Green Lantern was also quietly scrapped, the only reason they mentioned it was to clarify that Lanterns is a separate thing), and DC's big announcement not including them, it seems very reasonable for us to assume that some of these "in development" projects are not actually in development, and I personally see no value in continuing to list all of these unless DC confirms one way or another what's going on with them, at this point I think all it's really doing is polluting the page. So, should we just get rid of them? ShyKen (talk) 00:30, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- I would think we should get rid of everything not announced by the new team or part of the Batman spin-offs. They cancelled all the Justice League Dark stuff when they pulled the plug on JJ's deal awhile back... Justice U is clearly not happening at the CW anymore.. and there hasn't been anything on the Val Zod project in awhile. Can always be added back if anything gets back into development but the new slate is the new slate. Spanneraol (talk) 01:17, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Went ahead and removed all the ones I mentioned. Gonna leave Justice U on there for now since David Ramsey has talked about the status of that recently (in October he said they were working on the second draft of a script, in December he gave a somewhat vague update about it still being in the works). I suspect we'll find out what's happening with that soon enough. ShyKen (talk) 18:47, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Missing DC pilot
editI've noticed under the section pilots that the pilot for the 2019 secret six is not mentioned however, the series went unproduced, and I believe the pilot was unaired I also believe the net work could've been NBC or The CW or, perhaps CBS Green skull (talk) 20:09, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
- It was previously listed but I removed it a few months ago. CBS did have a pilot order for it, but I couldn't find any evidence that a pilot was ever actually filmed, or any production information about it whatsoever (most notably, no casting information was ever shared), so I don't think it actually exists. ShyKen (talk) 20:38, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
Powerless series
editHow does Powerless related to Arrowverse? 5.127.222.175 (talk) 14:39, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- It's not related to the arrowverse. Spanneraol (talk) 15:44, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- Look at this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_series_based_on_DC_Comics_publications#cite_note-2 Hosein Fitz (talk) 15:58, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- That's not a good source... and it was just an injoke easter egg thing, it didnt make the show part of the arrowverse. Spanneraol (talk) 16:37, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- lol yeah I did not realize our basis for considering it part of the Arrowverse was an extremely ambiguous easter egg. Remember to not take headlines at face value, folks. Upon further examination there is absolutely nothing actually tying Powerless to the Arrowverse. There's no overlap in cast/characters, Powerless has no crossovers or canon implications with other Arrowverse shows, or vice-versa. Can't even consider it Arrowverse-adjacent since it doesn't seem like it came up in any of the multiverse stuff. We should definitely remove that note. ShyKen (talk) 22:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- That's not a good source... and it was just an injoke easter egg thing, it didnt make the show part of the arrowverse. Spanneraol (talk) 16:37, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- Look at this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_series_based_on_DC_Comics_publications#cite_note-2 Hosein Fitz (talk) 15:58, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
Imaginext
editWhy isn’t the Imaginext Super Friends YouTube webseries included anywhere? Joker’s Playhouse is, but the rest isn’t. Anonypedia69 (talk) 10:34, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Probably just because nobody knows anything about the YouTube webseries' in general. The vast majority of the content on the DC Kids YouTube channel is either re-edits/re-uploads of existing content, or is more of an elaborate toy advertisement than an actual piece of content. I'm not sure which way the Imaginext stuff swings, IMO it feels more like an ad but I have no strong feelings one way or the other.
- Joker's Playhouse is separate from the other Imaginext stuff, it's is a legitimate short film with a noteworthy director, writer, and voice cast, that just happens to be associated with the toy line. Although now that I'm looking more into this, that should probably be on the Film page instead of here. ShyKen (talk) 15:55, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Re-evaluate Arrowverse Adjacent Tag
editI finally got around to watching the Crisis on Infinite Earths Arrowverse crossover event and... I think we should remove some 'Arrowverse adjacent' tags from a few things. 60's Batman is merely implied. Wonder Woman's only in a tie-in comic (tie-in comics tend to be ambiguous on canon, but either way that connection is beyond the scope of this article IMO). Birds of Prey is a brief cameo that establishes no connection. Swamp Thing isn't even a proper cameo, it's just archival footage.
The only ones that I think should still qualify are ones where characters directly interact with Arrowverse characters and/or have some kind of actual plot relevance beyond just a cameo appearance, in a television series specifically. I don't think it's useful or valuable to readers of this article to treat every multiverse cameo across every medium as meaningful connecting tissue between otherwise entirely unrelated franchises, especially when there's already an article dedicating to listing these connections. ShyKen (talk) 17:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- I agree.. in fact I'd get rid of that tag altogether. Shows that came out before the arrowverse was even a thing and shows that were just referenced in multiverse montages (Doom Patrol, Titans) etc. really don't need to be tagged as "arrowverse adjacent" Spanneraol (talk) 17:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Removed all the ones I mentioned, but I have no objections to removing the remaining ones. ShyKen (talk) 18:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)