Talk:List of terrorist incidents in 2024

Latest comment: 30 days ago by Sjö in topic Including pager attacks


The Solingen stabbing

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The solingen stabbing has been acknowledged as a terror attack by German authorities and ISIS has claimed responsibility, posted a photo of the attacker, and a video of the attacker 157.157.149.105 (talk) 18:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Can you supply reliable secondary sources saying all that in their own voices to allow it to comply with WP:V and WP:NPOV? Currently all we've seen are sources saying it is believed to be terrorism and that IS claimed it - and that's not good enough, we need it to be verified by the reliable sources. The best thing to do is probably to wait and see if the courts make a conviction. -- DeFacto (talk). 22:45, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
- article talking about the video released by IS of the attacker: https://syrianobserver.com/refugees/isis-releases-video-of-syrian-refugee-behind-solingen-stabbing-attack-in-germany.html
- https://ent.siteintelgroup.com/Jihadist-Threat-Statements/is-gives-exclusive-report-on-solingen-attack-in-an-naba-458-boasts-sowing-of-fear-and-panic-in-germany.html
- https://apnews.com/article/germany-knife-attack-solingen-islamic-state-1095235a9dadf6e1005e8adff52d05b4 Alexander141104 (talk) 13:35, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
The first and third ones of those (I cannot access the second one) support what I said - that there is only a suspicion of being a terrorist and that IS claimed responsibility. Neither verify it in their own voices, as indeed they cannot without convictions. -- DeFacto (talk). 17:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
it is being treated as a terrorist attack though so it should still be listed even though "it isnt confirmed" that IS was responsible, and there are attacks in the articles from previous years where IS didnt even claim the attacks yet theyre listed as responsible such as the 2021 (?) Kabul Shia School bombing Alexander141104 (talk) 22:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
New info about the suspect was just revealed, he worked for ISIS´s tax (Zakat) office up until at least 2018 before leaving for Europe, and he also has family members in ISIS 157.157.149.105 (talk) 21:15, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Including pager attacks

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Multiple reliable sources have said that Israel's pager attack against Lebanon is an act of terrorism including a U.N panel, a Washington Post Article the Taiwanese company who made the pagers Belgium's Deputy PM a Former CIA Director the EU's foreign policy chief and the Lemkin Institute. This to me seems like a consensus of reliable sources and because of that I believe the attack should be included in the article. Rabawar (talk) 09:39, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

It’s been about two days and no discussion from anyone, I'll make the change then. Rabawar (talk) 02:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
The Washington Post link you provided doesn’t?
How do reliable sources term the event? Do they tend to term it a terrorist attack, or do they use a different term? BilledMammal (talk) 06:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
here is the correct link I included the wrong link by mistake. as you can see by the other links, reliable sources call it a terrorist attack. Rabawar (talk) 07:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
That’s an opinion article - and one that doesn’t call it a terrorist attack but only says that others have done so.
Looking again, I’m seeing virtually no reliable sources calling it a terrorist attack. If they are, can you provide them? BilledMammal (talk) 07:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
is a U.N panel, the EU's foreign policy chief, a former CIA director not a reliable source? Rabawar (talk) 07:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I reverted your addition of the UN press release per WP:REDACT. Anyway, that link does not mention terrorism. Sjö (talk) 08:37, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I posted the wrong link to the UN panel and decided to correct it, am I not allowed to do that? I would understand if it was me rewording what I said after people already replied to it but it was just me changing the wrong link to the right one, it feels a little petty to revert that. The UN press release says “It is also a war crime to commit violence intended to spread terror among civilians" that is the literal definition of terrorism. Rabawar (talk) 09:11, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
You should have tagged it at the position you changed per WP:REDACT to make it clear what link was changed, but that is an easy mistake to make. On the other point, WP:OR says we should not draw our own conclusions about what someone really means and put those conclusions in the article. A war crime is not the same as terrorism. Sjö (talk) 05:25, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply