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Deletion of Monok Family Barony without explaination,

Latest comment: 1 year ago9 comments2 people in discussion

I would like to know the reasoning behind this. @TheJessr @Borsoka

FranzSebastianvH (talk) 22:35, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

There were not titled noble families in Hungary before the 15th centuries. Borsoka (talk) 02:21, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

@FranzSebastianvH: Could you quote the text from the sources allegedly cited verifying that the Monoki family bore the baronial title? Borsoka (talk) 01:48, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

"Miklós 1607-ben ónodi kapitány volt, a törökök ellen többször csatázott, és 1625-ben II. Ferdinánd király által a vörös pecséttel élhető bárók sorába emeltetett.* Csetneki Annától született gyermekei közűl fiában János-ban 1643-ban a család férfi ágon magbaszakadván, és testvérének Ferencznek fiú gyermekei nem lévén, a Monoky családi birtokok leány-ágakra szállottak. Miklósnak leánya Anna csikszentkirályi Andrássy Mátyásnak lévén nejévé, ez által az Andrássy család is tetemesen örökölt; sőt Anna 1665-ben némely birtokokra uj adományt is vitt.*"

https://www.arcanum.com/hu/online-kiadvanyok/Nagyivan-nagy-ivan-magyarorszag-csaladai-1/hetedik-kotet-5828/monoky-csalad-monoki-6B2C/ FranzSebastianvH (talk) 01:53, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

House of Monok#House of Mónek Read this.@Borsoka FranzSebastianvH (talk) 20:59, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Please read WP:SOURCE. One cannot refer to the results of their own research against reliable sources. Borsoka (talk) 01:13, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

It is not my own research; I am not @TheJessr@TheJessr FranzSebastianvH (talk) 06:38, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

There are dozens of reliable sources linked there. FranzSebastianvH (talk) 06:39, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

No, there is not a single reliable source verifying that the baronial branch of the family or the family still exist. Please read WP:3RR before reverting my edit. Please also read WP:Sock puppetry. I think it would be useful both for you and TheJessr Borsoka (talk) 10:35, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

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