Talk:List of whistleblowers/Archive 1

Archive 1

alphabetical vs. choronoligical order

It's strange that this page is in alphabetical order -- alphabetical order is so 20th century (used to make it easier to find things you're looking for on paper -- we use full-text search now). Anyhow, I think this page would look really cool if it were presented in chronological order by the date of the whistle-blowing (presented, where necessary, as a date range).

I'll also point out that if we're keeping multiple whistle-blowers related to one scandal on the same line, then alphabetical order is particularly ineffective and chronological order becomes particularly effective.

Thoughts?

Agradman ^talk/_contribs 05:28, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

• I like the idea of ordering the names chronologically rather than alphabetically. In addition to keeping people involved in the same incident together, this makes it easy to associate problems with certain presidential administrations.
• This list is very short. I could add over a hundred names right now, but I'm not sure that's a good idea. Perhaps there should be categories like industry, political, religious. I just throw that out for discussion.

ChrisWinter (talk) 05:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Julian Assange?

Where is he? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.131.167 (talk) 00:30, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

• He is not a whistleblower, he is a publisher of leaks. Guy (Help!) 01:58, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

He deserves spot on here just as much as anyone else.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Varietylights (talk • contribs)

You are correct he is a publisher of leaks but non the less Assange is a whistleblower as much as that may Smack of a bit of a twist he is a whistleblower. In the whistleblower USC 313729-3733 law you can be a secondary source and still be called a Qui Tam Plantiff but what to do with him would be more the question. I believe that Wikileaks and Assange as much as some folks may not like him or agree with his tactics is an important player in getting out the real truth and I believe that puts him in the Whistleblower category. I Wikipedia is truly a publisher of significant historical data Then I believe that Wiki Leaks and Assange deserves to have a spot at the table in as far as original source or secondary source is concerned either way their putting out verifiable information and off course no bigger or no smaller then another site "No Grandstanding" and non-promotional would seem appropriate. I realize that this is a sensitive subject matter but you have to look at the truth of it and agree that he is a publisher of fact and not the original source but a channel for the original source. My thumb is up !Qui Tam Relator 07:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qui Tam Relator (talk • contribs)

In sum, a whistleblower works for the entity (be it a company or government), and has specialist inside knowledge, and then risks his/her job by whistleblowing. Assange is an outsider. Some of his material comes from whistleblowers.Red Hurley (talk) 14:45, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

so, was he added or not? (did not check the entire list, dropped by here for an other reason) - because if no, I also vote for no. WL is a publishing platform, of course a journalistic medium. JAs role is that of the editor. This is something ab-so-lu-te-ly different than whistleblowing, even though the current authorities in the USA seem, according to the news arriving in Europe, not like to accept that. (It is not always easy to accept what one does not like, but here the facts are quite clear.) --Zwozwölf1121-3 (talk) 10:14, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Format of this list

This list seems very difficult to navigate; I think it needs a format change. WP:BOLDly adding a table based on List of Nobel laureates in Physics. VQuakr (talk) 04:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Well done. The table format is great improvement. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 01:15, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I suggest a new column next to year: "Award/Sanction". A short description of what happened to the whistleblower next. Eg. "Jailed for 30 months". "Suit dismissed". This would provide a quick overview on what these courageous individuals put on risk while speaking out for the rest of us. Narutikas (talk) 10:15, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Needed additions

Roger Boisjoly should be on this list. Also AEC scientists John Gofman and Arthur Tamplin, Engineer Charles Pettis, and former GM employee Ed Gregory (to name a few.) ChrisWinter (talk) 23:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Bradley Manning and Ryszard Jerzy Kukliński

I propose to add Bradley Manning and Ryszard Kuklinski to the list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.192.156 (talk) 14:30, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

I was also going to suggest adding Bradley Manning, he could be paired with Julian Assange.BenW (talk) 08:30, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

I take from the comments Bradley Manning was in Jan 2012 not on the list? wow. Is he now? (not checked yet, dropped by here for an other reason). I hope this was done already. --Zwozwölf1121-3 (talk) 10:17, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Gary Webb

How can a journalist be a whistleblower? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aureliusweb (talk • contribs) 23:57, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

No Smedley Butler?

He revealed a conspiracy to overthrow the government. --Goldenbirdman (talk) 07:56, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Gustl Mollath

Could somebody technically more experienced than me add Gustl Mollath to the list? No idea how to use the form yet. --Zwozwölf1121-3 (talk) 10:18, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Inclusion criteria?

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For a list to be useful, some limits need to be placed on its contents. At the moment, it does not appear that any discussion has been had about the inclusion criteria for this list. I propose three options, and would like to hear what other people think. VQuakr (talk) 06:39, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

• Option A - any person may be listed, provided there is at least one reliable source.
• Option B - any person may be listed, provided there is an article about the whistleblowing event. Optionally, their name can be piped to the event to provide consistent blue links.
• Option C - a person should be listed only if they are themselves notable.

Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 06:39, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Straw Poll

• Option B - This provides balance between rampant inclusion, and excluding whistleblowers who are not individually notable but are associated with notable events. VQuakr (talk) 06:39, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
• Option B - If there isn't an article about the persons whislteblowing then to me it seems unlikely that they would be notable unless it was for something else. Opt C would seem to exclude those that are notable because of the whisleblowing. --wintonian ^talk 20:50, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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Confused about List Of Whistleblowers ?

Greetings Wikipedia List Of Whistleblowers Talk Page Will the List of Whistleblowers be in a yearly format, when the event happened? Seems that this would be the most appropriate way and easily found when the whistleblowing happened the date when it occurred. 166.137.208.48 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:06, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Welcome! The table is sortable, and defaults to chronological order. VQuakr (talk) 03:51, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I disagree at the moment I seem to have 2002 - 1966 - 1977 at the beginning and 2009 (big gap here with no dates) 2005 - 2006 -2009 - 2006 - 2011 - 2012 at the other end, I haven't touched any of the sorting options. --wintonian ^talk 20:45, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Currently, the sort order appears to be random. It starts off chronological, but then starts jumping about and the second half of the list is mostly in random order. Also, Bradley Manning is listed twice, with slightly different details. mmj (talk) 02:06, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

List of Whistleblowers

Any significant event of any kind usually has many verifiable sources. To avoid any confusion of the reliability of the claim there should be maybe more then a single source, usually there are always two side to every story. Qui Tam Relator — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qui Tam Relator (talk • contribs) 04:14, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Edward Snowden

Propose that Edward Snowden be added to the list. But I'm unfamiliar with creteria, and whether current events warrant addition to the list. Apparently this is the Greenwald's source for the NSA "leaks". http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance I think therefore I Raptor. (talk) 22:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Snowden's whistleblowing is surely notable. He has been added now by an IP editor.[1] Bishonen | talk 17:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC).

Gregory Hicks

Very US-centric as well as slanted towards recent events, this list! I've removed Gregory Hicks (2013). He scarcely sounds like a "major whistleblower" as described, and doesn't have a Wikipedia article. Please revert if I'm wrong, and explain why on this page. Bishonen | talk 18:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC).

Perhaps there should be a column for the relevant country for each leak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenboite (talk • contribs) 21:34, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Bradley Manning

Appears twice in the list. Please put all of his info at one place only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.94.176.203 (talk) 16:12, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Ayatollah Montazeri He revealed the execution of about 4000 people during 3 nights (Aug-1988) in Iran, and the clandestine trip of Reagan representatives to Iran (Mr. McFarlan), and he lost his place as successor to Mr. Khomeini. He later was under house arrest for many years. Some of his relatives were executed because of his effort to stop the executions , and the leaking of the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Looty1 (talk • contribs) 01:38, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Susan Lindauer

Susan Lindauer has a wiki page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Lindauer

I think Susan Lindauer should also be on the whistleblower list as she was hidden away to keep her silent during the build up to the second Iraq War. After she got her freedom back her she wrote a book in which she reveals that Saddam was willing to do whatever the USA wanted to avert war and she should be considered a whistleblower in bringing out this information. Since she spoke out after losing her job there may be a technical objection to her being included.

From the above wiki page: "Lindauer has written a self-published book about her experience, Extreme Prejudice: The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover-Ups of 9/11 and Iraq.[24] Lindauer claims that for a number of years she had worked for the CIA and DIA undertaking communications with the Iraqi government, serving as a back-channel in negotiations. She started making visits to the Libyan mission at the United Nations in 1995,[10] lasting until 2001.[2]"

Redwoodhippie (talk) 01:03, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Putting List into Chronological Subdivisions

Dividing up the List of Whistleblowers into chronological sections has terminated the ability to search on organizations or names except for the first division. This should be undone or the ability to search on successive chronological divisions should be added. In addition, the last clade doesn't match the formatting of the preceding clade. A lot of work went into putting organizations into uniform order so they could be searched on.Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 22:07, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Blake Percival

If we're going to add new content about a living person, don't we need a source which calls them a whistleblower? Or at least a secondary source of any kind?

Definition of Whistleblower

The definition of whistleblower seems to be broader than the one from Wiktionary:

One who reports a problem or violation to the authorities; especially, an employee or former employee who reports a violation by an employer.

Using this as a guideline would exclude some of the people on this list. Good examples of whistleblowers are Thomas Andrews Drake, Sherron Watkins, Cynthia Cooper, Karen Silkwood, and David Durk. It seems merely liking what someone exposes, or the fact that they exposed secrets (not just wrong doing), is enough to be called "whistleblower." While List of Snitches might be more accurate, it's not quite appropriate; stricter categorization is needed. Corbain (talk) 18:31, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Cate Jenkins was not fired again

Your description of EPA whistleblower Cate Jenkins says that she was fired, reinstated in 2012, then fired again in 2013. This is incorrect, and was based on misinterpreting an E&ENews article, reading just the headline of the article. EPA did in fact attempt to fire me again after I was reinstated in 2012, but quickly withdrew their second 2013 proposed removal. See 9/26/13 PEER press release, "EPA UN-FIRES WHISTLEBLOWER BUT VOWS TO TRY AGAIN" http://www.peer.org/news/news-releases/2013/09/26/epa-un-fires-9/11-whistleblower-but-vows-to-try-again/

Is this prominent enough?

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Pontaquarto "Pontaquarto confessed before the justice to have recieved money from the SIDE (intelligence agency) for the approval of a project in the senate, he also named the legislators involved in the affair" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.191.97.85 (talk) 17:34, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Merrell Williams should be added

Merrell Williams was a paralegal at the Brown and Williamson tobacco company who photocopied compromising documents and released them to the US press. Here is a good reference. A google search will reveal many more. He also won the Joe A. Callaway Award for Civic Courage in 1997 and is mentioned on that page. Anyone interested in adding this information? Best wishes. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 22:14, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

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Is Gene Wirges noteworthy enough to be on this list?

Eugene Henry Wirges (December 5, 1927 - June 19, 2014) was a journalist and editor for local papers such as the Morrilton Gazette. In 1960, five citizens contacted Wirges about their concerns of rigged elections and the recalling of three board members in one school district. He found some voting irregularities, and after interviewing some voters, he found out that Orval Faubus and Conway County sheriff Marlin Hawkins were behind a political conspiracy. After documenting these findings, he was sued for libel twice, courts gave him seven indictions, and he was threatened with a $275,000 fine and a three year jail sentence, and was charged with alleged first-degree perjury, which was dismissed by the Arkansas Supreme Court. I read about some of this from his book Conflict of Interests (nothing to do with Wikipedia) and from his Encyclopedia of Arkansas entry, but I think it's unlikely Wikipedia would accept either of these sources. -- MrHumanPersonGuy (talk) 11:42, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

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Format/Word Choice

The opening paragraph of this article talks about a specific whistleblower "Jan" who should be referred to by her last name and not her first, and who should be listed chronologically below and not in the introduction.

Wording about Walter Coffey is heavily biased and inappropriate for a factual article. Parts are grammatically incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.182.38.8 (talk) 15:33, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Proposed Addition to List of Whistleblowers

A proposed addition: Dr. Aaron Westrick

(originally this requested edit was denied for not being specific enough- however, I have altered the format of this edit and so am using the normal requested edit again)

Please change: (no existing entry/text)

to read as:

(I've formatted the below information as Column: Information)

Year: 2018

Name: Dr. Aaron Westrick

Organization: Second Chance

Action: Dr. Aaron Westrick blew the whistle on the body armor company he worked for, Second Chance. Second Chance was manufacturing faulty bullet-proof vests, yet continued to sell them to police officers and the U.S. military. Dr. Westrick, the research director for Second Chance at the time, became involved in a long series of lawsuits beginning in 2001 against both Second Chance and Toyobo, the fiber manufacturer for the defective Zylon vests sold by Second Chance. In 2018, the Second Chance case concluded with the settlement of the company's former president and CEO Richard Davis. A 2018 CBS television program Whistleblower (U.S. TV program) featured Dr. Westrick and the body armor case on one of their hour-long episodes.

using as a reference:

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Thank you for clarifying this. One additional point of clarification remains. According to an earlier discussion, consensus for inclusion appears to be "Option B - any person may be listed, provided there is an article [here on Wikipedia] about the whistleblowing event. Optionally, their name can be piped to the event to provide consistent blue links." With this in mind, please provide the Wikilinks to the whistleblowing event described in the proposal. Regards,  Spintendo  04:11, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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Eran Efrati from Israel

Eran Efrati is the best and in a way the sole exposer of IDF crimes against Palestinians, very well known on Media and should be added here as well as have Wiki Entry.84.111.208.168 (talk) 21:26, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Richard Barlow could be included?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Barlow

Foia req (talk) 18:28, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

@Foia req: I concur re. including Richard Barlow (Intelligence analyst). But what date should be used? 1987, I assume, when Barlow reportedly told the US House Foreign Affairs subcommittee that 'that the CIA had "scores" of "absolutely reliable" reports on Pakistan's clandestine efforts to obtain nuclear bomb technology', contradicting testimony on that same issue by US Army General David Einsel? Or 1989 when he told colleagues in the US Department of Defense that reports he had filed on Pakistan's nuclear program had been "willfully falsified by officials at the Office of the Secretary of Defense" and was fired days later? DavidMCEddy (talk) 09:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Adam Gold allegedly fake

"Adam Gold" is allegedly a fake account that was banned by Facebook; the true whistleblower is Itai Leshem [2] [3]. If this is true, we should remove the entry for Adam Gold from this page. Qzekrom (she/they • talk) 22:40, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done With this edit, Qzekrom removed "Adam Gold" as allegedly fake account. NedFausa (talk) 20:11, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Proposed addition to list

Information to be added or removed: Please add Howard Wilkinson to the list of whistleblowers: his whistleblowing disclosure is detailed on this page. In the "Action" box, insert the below text:

"Howard Wilkinson worked for Danske bank at an Estonian branch, and his whistleblowing actions led to the uncovering of a $235 billion U.S. dollars money laundering scheme. Wilkinson testified in front of the Danish parliament in 2018 and talked about his whistleblowing action and whistleblower laws."

Explanation of issue: I believe that Wilkinson's disclosure is notable enough to be included on this list because of the sizable amount recovered and how the case continues to be relevant.

References supporting change: Here are some recent articles/sources to show the relevancy of Wilkinson's disclosure.

Article from The Guardian from Sept. 2018

Wall Street Journal article from Oct. 2018

A November 2018 article from a local radio station

CBS News video about the money laundering scandal from May 2019

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Reply 4-FEB-2020

• Option B (the consensus for inclusion for this list article) states "any person may be listed, provided there is an article [here on Wikipedia] about the whistleblowing event." The article in question here is not about a whistleblowing event - rather, it is about a case of financial fraud. It appears that the whistleblowing was merely one detail of the larger fraud story. The whistleblower in this case was not the sentinal event which caused heretofore covered financial fraud to be uncovered. The Wikipedia article describing this event makes it clear that its uncovering came about through others. Amid those later voices was the whistleblower — who initially was ignored by authorities. It was the Estonian Financial Supervision Authority who first raised flags in 2007, a full 6 years before the individual in this case (Wilkinson) came forward. I believe that makes this a case primarily about fraud which includes a whistleblower, rather than being a case primarily about a whistleblower uncovering fraud. I'd like to hear other editor's opinions on this. Regards,  Spintendo  04:30, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Archiving

This page is getting long so I added autoarchiving. I also added a FAQ based on review of discussions here, feel free to edit it. Guy (help!) 09:49, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@JzG: thank you for archiving. Please, is the archiveheader template added to banner automatically, or is that something an admin would have to do? I find those really useful. NedFausa (talk) 16:48, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

NedFausa, normally it's added by the bot. I can try manually though. Guy (help!) 16:49, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Absence of [name redacted]?

This was a pretty big news story, and there seems to be a glaring absence of info about them. What gives? GirlishDriver (talk) 22:33, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Please see closed discussion, which states: "Per WP:BLP we will not be outing the whistleblower on Wikipedia by reference, inference, or otherwise." Accordingly, I have redacted the individual's name from this section heading. NedFausa (talk) 22:42, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Absence of Ukraine whistleblower

On August 12, 2019, an unnamed CIA officer filed a whistleblower complaint with the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community under provisions of the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act. On September 18, The Washington Post broke the story, saying the complaint concerned a promise President Trump made during communication with an unnamed foreign leader. On September 24, Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, announced a formal impeachment inquiry, which was widely attributed to the whistleblower's complaint. What became known as the Trump–Ukraine scandal culminated on December 18 in the impeachment of the president of the United States, and was one of the biggest worldwide news stories of 2019–2020.

The whistleblower who unleashed these historic developments is not mentioned among Wikipedia's List of whistleblowers.

That omission can probably be traced to the January–February 2020 discussion at Talk:Trump–Ukraine scandal, which concluded: "Per WP:BLP we will not be outing the whistleblower on Wikipedia by reference, inference, or otherwise." Three days after discussion was closed, administrator JzG added an FAQ to this Talk page, declaring: "Wikipedia will not include the name of any whistleblower, alleged or confirmed, including the speculated Ukraine whistleblower, until it is the subject of non-trivial coverage in reliable independent secondary sources."

I wonder, however, if it might be permissible to add the Ukraine whistleblower account here without identifying him. In the Name column, we could say Anonymous, and scrupulously avoid any reference that reports or links to his name. In my opinion, the events in question, and the whistleblower's seminal role therein, are far too important for us to ignore. NedFausa (talk) 17:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

That should be unproblematic. Anonymous or "Ukraine whistleblower" or whatever. Loads of sources for that. Guy (help!) 21:59, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your encouragement. As a starting point while awaiting further discussion here, I added "Anonymous" 2019–2020 entry to the article space. NedFausa (talk) 22:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I concur. Looks like a pretty good start. EricSeesMarshmellows (talk) 22:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

NedFausa, seems OK to me Guy (help!) 22:35, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

References

Requesting an addition of a whistleblower: Howard Wilkinson

Information to be added or removed: Please add Howard Wilkinson to the list of whistleblowers. I've formatted the requested new information in the style of the article, including the blurb of the whistleblower action.

Year	Image	Name	Organization	Action
2007-2014		Howard Wilkinson	Danske Bank	Howard Wilkinson's whistleblowing action led to the Danske Bank money laundering scandal, the details of which were made public in 2018. He reported the suspected money laundering activities at the Estonian branch of Danske Bank where he worked until 2014, but his internal reports were ignored until the bank went public with the information in 2018. It was revealed that the money laundering scandal involved around 200 billion euros. In December 2018, Wilkinson testified in front of the Danish Parliament, discussing his role as a whistleblower and addressing the EU whistleblower laws. Additionally, Wilkinson's case was featured on the CBS 60 Minutes television program in May of 2019.

Explanation of issue: The list is lacking the inclusion of Mr. Wilkinson, whose disclosure led to the discovery of 200 billion euros laundered by the Estonian branch of Danske Bank. He is notable enough to be on this list, especially since he has a personal Wikipedia page and the whistleblowing action he was involved in has its own Wikipedia page as well.

References supporting change: Here are some additional articles about this whistleblowing event.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-danske-bank-moneylaundering-idUSKCN1NO0ZR

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-29/danske-says-it-freed-whistle-blower-of-confidentiality-clause

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/how-the-danske-bank-money-laundering-scheme-involving-230-billion-unraveled-60-minutes-2019-05-19/

Please let me know if there are any issues with my requested edit, and I will gladly change them to get this change published. Thank you! Sa 3003 (talk) 20:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done your edit request has been approved. Trains2050 (talk) 06:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

References

Requesting an addition of a whistleblower: Jane Turner

Information to be added or removed: Please add Jane Turner to the list of whistleblowers. I've formatted the requested new information in the style of the article, including the blurb of the whistleblower action.

Year	Image	Name	Organization	Action
1999-2007		Jane Turner	Federal Bureau of Investigation	FBI whistleblower Jane Turner was an FBI agent for 25 years who in 2002 blew the whistle on her colleagues for stealing items from Ground Zero during inspections of the site.She also blew the whistle on the FBI's mishandling of cases of child abuse on Indian reservations in North Dakota. In 2007, Turner won the final judgement as the Department of Justice vetoed the FBI's appeal of a jury verdict that found the FBI guilty of illegal retaliation against Turner. Turner's case has since been used by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) and the U.S. Senate in understanding how to improve the FBI whistleblower program.

Explanation of issue: The list is lacking the inclusion of Ms. Turner, whose whistleblowing action has proved important not just for uncovering misconduct at the FBI when her cases were ongoing: her story has remained important to legislators for understanding the experiences of whistleblowers in the FBI. She is notable enough to be on this list, especially since she has a personal Wikipedia page already.

References supporting change: Here are some additional articles about the whistleblowing event: some of the links also show how relevant Turner remains today.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-slurs-against-the-fbi-endanger-agents-former-employee-says/2019/12/13/f7177af0-1d27-11ea-9ddd-3e0321c180e7_story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/04/federal-whistleblowers-would-do-it-again-even-after-retaliation-professional-suicide/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-plans-to-fire-whistleblower/

https://shadowproof.com/2015/03/05/the-fbis-culture-of-hostility-toward-whistleblowers-and-how-justice-department-permits-policy-of-retaliation/

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/article/why-lead-fbi-agent-botched-ted-stevens-case-still-employed/2012/06/07/

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/fbi-whistleblower-jane-turner

https://www.wisbar.org/NewsPublications/WisconsinLawyer/Pages/Article.aspx?ArticleID=26212

Please let me know if there are any issues with my requested edit, and I will gladly change them to get this change published. Thank you! Sa 3003 (talk) 20:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

@Sa 3003: what is the conflict of interest that you have with this article? many thanks Trains2050 (talk) 06:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Trains2050: Hey thanks for asking! Not sure if this format is how I respond haha, but I work for the law firm that represented Jane Turner (this disclosure is displayed on my talk page). I hope this won't be a problem as I don't really mention anything like that in the entry, but let me know what you think! Thanks so much! Sa 3003 (talk) 14:20, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Sa 3003: that's ok, i am going to review your change right now and i will get back to you as soon as possible.Trains2050 (talk) 14:23, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Sa 3003:  Done your edit request has been approved and done. many thanks for being honest and declaring that you have a conflict of interest. Trains2050 (talk) 14:30, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

References

Requesting an addition of a whistleblower: Bassem Youssef

Information to be added or removed: Please add Bassem Youssef (FBI agent) to the list of whistleblowers. I've formatted the requested new information in the style of the article, including the blurb of the whistleblower action.

Year	Image	Name	Organization	Action
2003		Bassem Youssef (FBI agent)	Federal Bureau of Investigation	Bassem Youssef blew the whistle on FBI hiring practices: in 2003, he sued the FBI for discrimination. His lawsuit claimed that in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, he had been passed over for promotions to work in counterterrorism, even though he had relevant experience and was one of the only fluent Arabic speakers at his level at the FBI at the time. Instead, others with less relevant experience and skills were promoted to counterterrorism positions, and when Youssef spoke out against these practices, he was retaliated against. He was assigned a desk job and stated that post-9/11, his skills as an Arabic speaker and polygraph examiner had not been used. In 2006, the Department of Justice's Office of Professional Responsibility ruled that the FBI had illegally retaliated against Youssef because of his whistleblowing.

Explanation of issue: The list is lacking the inclusion of Mr. Youssef, whose whistleblowing action has proved important in uncovering misconduct at the FBI in regards to counterterrorism and public safety. He is notable enough to be on this list, especially since he has a personal Wikipedia page already.

References supporting change: Here are some additional articles about the whistleblowing event and Mr. Youssef that are more recent.

A 2018 The Hill article about Youssef warning James Comey about the role of surveillance in counterterrorism

2008 testimony by Chuck Grassley on FBI whistleblowers in which he featured Youssef's story

2005 clip from John Stewart's show about Youssef's lawsuit

Please let me know if there are any issues with my requested edit, and I will gladly change them to get this change published. Thank you! Sa 3003 (talk) 20:56, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done @Sa 3003: processed that for you, attributed in edit summary. Thank you, Darren-M talk 15:57, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

References

Inclusion criteria

This list is supposed to represent "major" whistleblower cases, but recent cases (from 2000 on) appear to be any cases that received any press coverage. In order to avoid becoming an indiscriminate list of every possible case, I would recommend a criterion that either the named whistleblower or the specific whistleblowing incident already be the topic of a Wikipedia article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:00, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Duh -- I see my question has already been asked and answered at this RFC and is clearly noted at the top of this talk page! I'll take my trout slaps offline please. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:48, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Irène Frachon

@Apatus5: Could you please create an English-language Wikipedia article either on fr:Affaire du Mediator or on fr:Irène Frachon?

The "Frequently asked questions (FAQ)" at the top of this talk page says, "The inclusion criteria for this list were set in a 2013 RfC: any person may be listed, provided there is an article [here on Wikipedia] about the whistleblowing event." There is an article in the French-language Wikipedia about the event with 69 references. In addition, there are articles on her in five different language Wikipedias: Breton, Catalán, Spanish, French, and Italian.

The single citation you provided would not be sufficient by itself for including Irène Frachon in this list. However, it seems apparent that there is sufficient information to create English-language Wikipedia articles on both the Mediator affair and Irène Frachon. If you do not read Spanish or French and would like help with that, I can help. Also you should be able to get some creds with Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red for trying to create a Wikipedia article on Frachon ;-)

Thanks for your efforts to improve Wikipedia, but don't be surprised if another editor reverts your addition of Frachon to this list. If that happens, I recommend creating an article on the "Mediator affair" and preferably also on Frachon. DavidMCEddy (talk) 08:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks!

My bad : I didn't see the English-language page criteria, just noticed there were few French whistleblowers on the list.

I'll add writing or translating an article about Frachon and/or Mediator on my to-do list, thanks! Just looking for time now ;-) Apatus5 (talk) 10:48, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Rebekah Jones

According to NBC, the final report came out and Rebekah Jones was shown not to be an actual whistleblower, shouldn't she be removed from this page?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/florida-ig-report-insufficient-evidence-desantis-critics-claims-covid-rcna30647

https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/1529916603697090563

Dgoldwas (talk) 20:19, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Gender

What possible reason is there for these tables to have a "gender" column? 31.111.47.93 (talk) 01:34, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

I start deleting the column from new to older maybe one half so far You Make Me Fade (talk) 11:09, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

@Geysirhead: what is the rational for gender column? You Make Me Fade (talk) 02:54, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the question! As you can see the table is sortable. A simple click on sort button shows either all women or men from a certain time period. This is very useful. Geysirhead (talk) 20:40, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

I see that to be useful. Thank you for answer You Make Me Fade (talk) 06:48, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Rebekah Jones

I add her back because some claim not in DHS retaliation claim were found true. You Make Me Fade (talk) 12:36, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Significance

This list really needs some additional metrics of significance so it's not just a huge boring unreadable list. Which ones are in the top 10% of historical significance? What could be some metrics that are reasonably objective (even if very approximate... order of magnitude is probably good enough), and not too hard to obtain? Some google stat? Number of WP references to the name? (Too self-referential?) DKEdwards (talk) 20:10, 25 June 2023 (UTC)