Talk:List of years in television

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So, can I hork your discussion and ask a question? I'm looking for some info on a TV show, and my recollection is really bad. It would be an old show, probably around 1970 - 1972. Almost certainly aired only in the US. It was about some kind of post-apocalyptic world, where this small (4-6?) group was running around in a really big All Terrain Vehicle. It had at least 6 or 8 tires on each side, that's what I remember best about the show was this huge vehicle. I think they had a couple of smaller buggies too. The cast was probably like one kid, one woman, one black guy, and two to three white guys. Sorry! But I'm desperate and I was hoping someone could help. -- Markspace 06:44, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

This is all from a very Americo-centric perpective. Mintguy

So add some that isn't -- Zoe

That I've done Zoe, with regard to the early days and Baird. But many of the 'highlights' of a particular year are completely meaningless to a readership audience outside of the US. e.g. First televised Presidential election coverage, should be First televised United States Presidential election coverage etc.. Mintguy

Not all of it. Most of it is though. I only know American TV, because I don't get TV from other countries other than the BBC. Hopefully, I'm not going to be the only one writing these articles. - Jazz77

I see that at least one other person is already adding some info.. -Jazz77

If pages are only going to list television of one country, IMO they should be renamed something like "USA Television in 1995". What do people think of moving them? Putting the pages in the proper category might turn them from very poor and biased pages into something that some folks could find usefull. -- Infrogmation

My intent was for them to be for all countries, which is why I included a lot of information about the BBC and other non-US countries. Add in more info about other countries.. as I'm trying to do. I'd rather do that than go through and edit out all of the non-US stuff and make them just about one country. -Jazz77

PS: they're "very poor and biased" only because I've been nearly alone in trying to add info to these pages. Add is some other non-US information. I've been adding as much as I can find, but being in the US I know very little about non-US television. Please help. Don't destroy the articles and turn them into US-specific articles. That's not what they were created to be. -Jazz77

Well, if you're just trying to contribute USA content to international articles, perhaps the categories should say things like "Hit Television Shows in the USA" and "Other Popular USA Television Shows". I'm certainly not trying to "destroy" anything, I'm trying to think how they could become more usefull based on what is there now. -- Infrogmation

But that's just it. I'm not just contributing USA content. I've added almost 100% of what is there.. there is a hell of a lot of info about the BBC, German TV, etc.. You're ignoring that stuff. As I've stated before, it's hard because since I'm in the US, its a million times easier for me to find info on US television than it is to find anything for international television, but I'm trying as hard as I can. I could use help. The articles could be more useful if some non-US contributors added in more international information. -Jazz77

Okay. I'm sorry, but of the first dozen pages I looked at, it seemed that at least 3/4 of them were all USA stuff. Again, if you make a list of hit USA tv shows, why not label it as such? That will leave room for others to add hit tv shows for countries they know about. (Sorry I don't have much first hand knowledge of other countries tv to add; if I could remember more than a couple of shows from Guatemala and Mexico I'd list them, but I was pretty much only aware of them because I had friends who watched them and I really don't know how popular they were.) Cheers, Infrogmation

I never set out to make a list of "popular US television shows". The problem I have is that I'm adding a lot of shows by memory. Not necessarily shows that I liked or watched, but just what sticks out as being popular at the time. Other than a handful (Dr Who, Monty Python, etc) I can't remember many popular non-US television shows. I know they exist, but being American, it's not really something I can just open up a magazine and read about (Or turn on the TV and see whats on.. I do get the BBC, but I don't "get" the BBC..) I've been searching the net for lists of popular non-US shows, but the problem I have there is that every page that lists tv shows claims that they're *all* popular. I have no intention of including every show that ever aired in the universe, so I really need help narrowing it down to the truly popular international shows. I'm adding in some shows from the British sitcom article right now.. I've actually heard of a couple of them, so I assume they were big. -Jazz77

Thanks to google, I found this possibly usefull site: http://dir.yahoo.com/News_and_Media/Television/By_Region/Countries/ No doubt google can find stuff about television for at least most English speaking countries. Cheers, -- Infrogmation

Why is it the responsibility of the person who created this article to be forced to "internationalize" the article? What's stopping you, or anybody else, from adding more information? You make it sound like it's a sin that Americans would write about what they know -- American subjects. Yes, this is an international site, but why is it the responsiblity of the Americans to make it that way? -- Zoe

1)Nothing has been stopping me from adding more info, which I have been doing. 2)If there are long lists of USA only information, I'd just like some acknowledgement that it is USA information (eg, a minor modification of a header to say something like "Hit Shows in the USA" rather than presenting it as if that's all that was going on in television anyhere in the world. IMO such a minor change of wording would improve the articles even without any additional information added. That is most certainly not the same thing as me saying people in the USA shouldn't write about USA subjects, but rather that while they are writing them they at least occasionally acknowledge that what they are writing about is specifically about the USA. See the distinction? -- Infrogmation

The problem with that is that if I were to label them "Hit shows of the USA", it would be very unlikely that anyone would add non-US TV shows to the list. By leaving it unspecific, I was hoping to encourage others to join in and add their own information. I think it would be easier for a non-US visitor to add an international show or two than it would be to go through and rename all of the articles "xxxx in American Television".

Thanks for the help by the way.. I see that you've been adding quite a bit. I haven't been able to find dates for some of that info. -Jazz77

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The problem with these pages is that because they are so dominated by US programmes I feel reluctant to add British content. I'm for stating up pages for particular nations and getting around these Americo-centric pages. Mintguy 17:42 22 May 2003 (UTC)

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Why is this List of 'years in television'? It should be List of years in television. Unless there are major objections, I am going to change it. Kingturtle 03:59, 1 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Well, i changed it. i got an error message when i did it....it read like this..."A database query syntax error has occurred. The last attempted database query was: "SELECT wl_user FROM watchlist WHERE wl_namespace=0 AND wl_title='List_of_'years_in_television" from within function "". MySQL returned error "1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'years_in_television' at line 2". "

But everything seemed to work out ok. i dunno. Kingturtle 06:35, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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This page seems to be upside-down when compared to other timelines on Wikipedia... —Mulad 07:05, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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Does anyone know why the "First television program broadcast via the Internet" isn't specified by name? —Editor B 22 Oct 2004

Concerning Star Trek

I am curious as to what UPN decided to replace Star Trek: Enteprise with. I also want to know if the show was carried to other users here via UPN...if anyone has an answer to either of these please drop a line at my talk page.

--Nelson Talk 01:48, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

By-country listings

Two years later... I think this would be more useful if it was broken down by country. I'm rather interested in non-American TV history, but jumbling all the countries together like this is rather confusing. Lambertman 21:06, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

I'll get to this page eventually. See before 1925 in television through 1930 in television to get an idea of a new format. The discussion is at Talk:1976 in television. Let me know if you have questions. If you wish to help—feel free to.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 11:02, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

Big Brother

I have added a tiny bit of information about the emergence of Big Brother. As it previously seemed, readers might´ve believed that Big Brother had its origins in England, while it´s actually a Dutch initiative.

English is not my first language though, so feel free to change the sentence if it doesn´t pass the grammar test.

Cervantes

I originally included 'the UK version of' so people didn't think it originated in the UK, but I see your point. BillyH 22:20, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, glad I could be of service (if only for a little bit)!

Cervantes

(Sorry this is in a box: what is the formatting secret to get it out?) The 1942 chronology says "FCC terminates all television broadcasting because of the war, " but in fact there was a useful variety of programming during the war. Stations as noted somewhere in the article, kept on the air at least 4 hours a weak to hold their license, and during that time they showed first aid training, air warden training, entertainment from Madison Square Garden, and war news. Existing tvs were in homes, bars, hospitals and schools. I have some a WW2 magazine (Life I think) with pictures and descriptions of the programming, which I will look for to ad to the references. I have read in various places that tv was off the air, but it was not entirely.

The chronology says tv advertising began in 1941 in the US, and the first "legal" tv ad was in 1941. But in the book "Television Broadcasting" by Lenox Lohr (McGraw Hill, 1940), which is basically about the New York City NBC/RCA station, there is a detailed description of commercial ads broadcast in 1939. There were 54 advertisers on 95 programs between the start of regular broadcasting in April 1939 and the end of the year. Because the station had an experimental license, the ads were run free of charge. So maybe it became legal to charge in 1941, but it looks like many ads were run as early as 1939.Edison 04:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

1936 Olympics Broadcasts

I think it should be mentioned that the first ever (?) live broadcasts around the world for the 1936 olympics in Berlin were done. Volksgeist 10:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Other timeline of television

I found the website The MZTV Museum of Television which have flash page. 201.0.80.132 (talk) 23:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC) Rsg 201.0.80.132 (talk) 23:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Years should be reversed

I feel that the dates should be in chronological order with the earliest at the top, in both the decades and within the decades. -- Alan Liefting- (talk) - 07:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Two Historical Notes

One of first all-electronic video camera tubes was invented in France by Edvard-Gustav Schoultz in 1921. He filed the French patent FR-539-613 on August 23, 1921. The patent was accepted on April 5, 1922, and published on June 28, 1922. You can find a copy of the original document in the web page [[1]]

The Image Dissector was also invented in Germany by Max Diekmann and Rudolf Hell in 1925. They filed the German patent DE-450-187 on April 5, 1925. The patent was accepted on September 15, 1927, and published on October 3, 1927. You can find a copy of the original document in the web page [[2]]

--134.153.204.160 (talk) 17:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Game-changing shows?

Shows that are added next to their respective years should be landscape-changing shows, no? If so, then why are there some shows in the recent years that have already/will soon blip out of memory? Some of them are just nonsensical. Can I change a few? Nick1372 (talk) 21:30, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm just going to change them. I should have expected no answer. Nick1372 (talk) 22:48, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

1925

If nothing of significance globally occurred with regard to television in 1925, why don't we just let the 20's begin with 1926 and Baird? GBrady (talk) 07:20, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Actually it appears that in the "Two historical notes" section a fairly significant patent was filed in 1925. I don't feel comfortable adding the info to article as I don't speak German but perhaps someone who does could? GBrady (talk) 07:23, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

1964- Daisy

This commercial has several lines/reasons on its importance: why when shows are merely named and other events have but a descriptive phrase? Nelliebellie (talk) 08:26, 24 May 2023 (UTC)