Talk:Live at Third Man Records (Billie Eilish album)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 13:58, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Short album article, though I will give it proper consideration nevertheless --K. Peake 13:58, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Add the venue parameter to infobox since this was a live recording
• "is a vinyl-exclusive live album by" → "is the debut live album by"
• The release sentence should be swapped with the recording one in the order
• "It was recorded at an acoustic live show with her brother" → "The album was recorded during an acoustic live show with Eilish's brother" with the target
• Remove wikilink on Third Man Records
• "It was officially released as Eilish's first live album on" → "It was released by Third Man Records on"
• "The record received a major drop on" → "Live at Third Man Records experienced a major release on"
• "debuting at number 55 on the" → "debuting at number 55 on the US"
• "selling 13 thousand copies in that week." → "selling 13,000 copies during that week."
• Sure you can't add another sentence to the second para since it is too short?

Background and recording

• "along with her brother Finneas O'Connell." → "alongside her brother Finneas O'Connell, known under his stage name of Finneas."
• "She performed in front" → "For the show, she performed in front"
• "several tracks off her EP" → "several tracks from her debut EP"
• Add release year of Don't Smile at Me in brackets
• "and her album When We Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?." → "and her debut studio album When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? (2019)"
• "The live album is a recording" → "Live at Third Man Records is a recording"
• "then transitions into" → "then transitioned into"
• "the shows "acoustic highlights"." → "the show's "acoustic highlights.""
• "Eilish sings" → "Eilish then performed"
• "the first chorus lyrics." → "the first chorus' lyrics." with the target
• "Eilish continues the performance with" → "She continued the show with performances of"
• "concludes the performance with" → "concluding by performing"
• "Pointing to the live video feed of the recording process," → "In particular, she pointed to the live video feed of the recording process,"
• "also thanked Jack White" → "also thanked White"
• "Eilish mentioned," → "She further mentioned,"

Release and packaging

• "The album was released independently under Third Man Records on" → "Live at Third Man Records was released independently by Third Man Records"
• "2019 with limited release." → "2019, with a limited release."
• "through two Third Man stores, each in Detroit and Nashville." → "at two Third Man stores, which were in Detroit and Nashville, respectively."
• "On August 29, 2020, during" → "On August 29, 2020, coinciding"
• "the record was made available" → "the album was made available"
• "of the record appear on blue opaque vinyl" → "of Live at Third Man Records appear on blue opaque vinyl" with the target
• "four repeated "Billie Eilish"'s in" → "four repeated displays of "Billie Eilish" in"
• "of the record feature" → "of the album contain"
• "applied by" → "that was applied by"

Reception

• "described the album" → "described Live at Third Man Records as what"
• "[performance]", and continues saying" → "[performance]," and continued by saying"
• "He concludes with saying" → "He concluded by admitting that"
• "described it as a" → "described the album as a"
• "said it was" → "said it is a"
• "The record received a" → "Live at Third Man Records received a"
• Remove wikilink on Record Store Day
• "sold 13 thousand copies in the sales week ending September 3." → "sold 13,000 copies in the US for the sales week ending September 3, 2020."
• "at number 55 on the" → "at number 55 on the US"
• "The record was the" → "The album was the"
• "which was also the biggest" → "which itself was the biggest"

Track listing

• A source is required to verify this is the track listing, plus can you find one to add the lengths of each live performance possibly?

Charts

• Good

References

• Copyvio score is quite poor at 45.7%; this can be fixed by trimming down quoting though
• Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
• Ref 6 should cite the last name solely in that parameter and the first followed by middle in the first name one
• Cite Rough Trade as publisher instead for ref 10 and target to Rough Trade Records, plus add the original URL alongside the archive
• WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 11
• Eric Alper should only be wikilinked on the author of ref 12 per WP:OVERLINK
• Cite YouTube as the publisher instead for ref 13 with the wikilink
• WP:OVERLINK of Rolling Stone on ref 14

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold but the track listing needs to be sourced more than anything else, or else I am not sure if this may be able to become a GA, sadly. Good luck though, I am glad to have been part of your ever-growing experience! --K. Peake 20:36, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, I cannot find a source anywhere where it shows the length. Not even the vinyl shows the lengths. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 01:21, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss You need a source that verifies that being the track listing, even if the lengths are not provided. --K. Peake 07:22, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, you can go ahead and fail the GA nomination. I am having some issues right now with some editors and I think they might complain about this becoming GA. Thanks a lot for all the reviews you have done for me. You are truly the best editor on this website. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss Are you sure about the fail since the track listing has now been proven it is able to be sourced? --K. Peake 07:44, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, yes I am sure. Bilorv is going to whine about this becoming GA. I just recommend you fail it so we don't have problem with them. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 20:58, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

This is not an accurate characterisation of my position—see User talk:Bilorv#Heads up for more information. — Bilorv (talk) 22:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

@The Ultimate Boss: I am not going to take sides between you and Bilorv because I do not know about the issues, though I will ✗ Fail this article per user request to be safe. --K. Peake 01:07, 4 November 2020 (UTC)