Talk:Living with Michael Jackson
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It's fine after all
editActually I think the article is fine. Bashir had indeed been very obviously biased by cutting out certain takes that highlighted Jackson's innocence. --tan prof (talk) 14:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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POV and factual inaccuracies
editThere were numerous inconsistencies between the content of the "summary" section and the content of the video, which have been corrected. There is also much editorial or opinionated language which I have attempted to neutralize. Please see the edits by me on 7/8 for specific examples. Zoticogrillo (talk) 03:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
"documentary critical of the musician" NPOV violation
editThe documentary is full of very critical opinion not based on fact, particularly at the end, and is not a neutral evaluation of the subject. To say that it is critical is merely descriptive and not a POV. To say that it is tabloid expose', while it might also be accurate, is a POV. Zoticogrillo (talk) 19:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- With all leads, the first first line should always be used to assert what the article is no about. Wikipedia discourages labeling singers "grammy award winning" in the opening line because it sets an inappropriate WP:TONE. The lead should mention the critical nature of the journalist, but not right in the first line. — Please comment R2 19:33, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- I was thinking of the descriptor as qualifying what kind of documentary it is. That is, as a sub-category. An additional reason for adding the descriptor is that the description of the piece as simply "documentary" leads one to believe that it is objective, when actually it is highly editorialized and controversial. Zoticogrillo (talk) 05:13, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Removed obvious opinion statement about interview
editRemoved the statement "A more fitting title for this documentary would have been 'Martin Bashir judges and criticizes every move Michael Jackson makes because Martin knows best'" which appeared at the end of the Summary section. Clearly biased opinion that has no basis in a factual article. Evixir (talk) 19:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)