Talk:Lizard Lick Towing

Staging?

The main text does not state these episodes are re-enactments. Why? 70.57.177.26 (talk) 00:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Because they're not. --WashuOtaku (talk) 00:48, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

This is the least believable reality TV that I have ever see. If these things are not staged and faked then the earth is flat.--82.9.70.201 (talk) 09:55, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

I have removed that from the episode guide because there is no source for it as well Bozonessinc (talk) 14:35, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I think we can reasonably say that it's staged - the network that make the show admits as much:

Q: Is truTV a reality network?

A: No. Our focus is on series that feature real-life situations. That is why we're using the theme "Not Reality. Actuality." for the network. The goal is to let people know that truTV programming is different from typical reality shows, which often involve contests or other highly staged events.

I think it is misleading for the article not to mention this. I have added a quote to the intro. Harry Metcalfe (talk) 09:47, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

References

Do we need references for something that is plainly obvious, say do we need a reference that the sky is blue? The fact that it is described in the article as a Reality TV series doesn't quote a reliable source either, just because the makers describe it as such is that enough? Perhaps a neutral term such be used, something like The Lizard Lick Towing company is a TV series. Sorry for the duplication BTW I hadn't read this bit before I added mine. Yakacm (talk) 12:11, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Reality TV? It's FAKE: PROOF

Season 3 episode 11 there is a black truck that shows up at the shop. they dont know who it is the in the very next segment ron and bobby are driving the same truck. then the segment after that, the mysterious man shows up in the mysterious black truck. Proof its scripted

Should this show be described as a reality TV show, however it is described by the makers? It is obvious after 5 minutes viewing that most of the scenes are re-enactments at best or completely fake at worst. If some mention of this was to be added to the article, it's debatable if a reference would be needed, if the makers of say Harry Potter described it as a documentary following a real wizard school would you need a reference to refute it. If this is a real then the Lizard Lick Towing company are a danger to their community, as they let tattooed manics use violence to resolve situations, without any repercussions. Yakacm (talk) 12:02, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

You ever watch COPS or other reportedly real shows, and see the way people react to situations like this, it doesn't seem nearly as fake. It may well be re-enactments or dramatizations, especially when camera and sound men are totally ignored by the angry people who've had a vehicle taken. However, to claim it's fake because of how violent Ronnie and Bobby occasionally get is quite ridiculous when compared to how police and other authorities have to handle hostile situations. If you had watched for more than 5 minutes, you'd see they only get into fights when necessary and prefer uneventful repossessions. I will say, though, that the latest episodes seem to be increasingly full of drama, which is starting to reduce the show's credibility for me.--68.6.182.39 (talk) 23:41, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

This show has to be fiction, not "reality." I don't think this article should bestow the tern "reality" on something just because some "Hollywood producer" calls it that. Wikipedia is smarter than that. Can't someone verify this and remove the term "reality"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.218.230 (talk) 03:22, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

It's the sources. If independent reliable sources call it reality or "reality", then that's what we write, and who we cite. We also cite such sources which disagree. --Lexein (talk) 03:32, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

hi there, just too say that me and my partner both watch "lizard lick", and both think its a great show, but am preaty certain that some of it is staged. example:an episode (series 2 i think), in whitch ronnie,bobby, and the light aircraft owner went too an airfield too repo a single engine airplane. they got the pilot out of the plane, but the camera person was seen sitting in it before the pilot and owner and bobby even got in the plane!is this staged or bad editing?!! 149.254.183.136 (talk) 10:26, 14 November 2013 (UTC)d reeve

You're not wrong. But we still need independent WP:reliable sources to verify this stuff. It's just how we do it here. --Lexein (talk) 11:34, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Why doesn't the article address the obvious fakeness of this show?

The intro to this article is using big words to skirt around the fact that this show is not reality TV. Neither is it Cinéma vérité because that involves provoking real unscripted situations. In the case of this show nothing is remotely "real" as noted in the discussions above - poor editing, jump cuts, impossible/improbable camera angles. Everything is prepared before the cameras even start rolling. In one episode they went to repossess a Civil War reenactor's car. Quickly the South and the Union join forces to stop them leaving by building a road block. Next thing the segue away is the same road block but a reverse shot from behind the reenactors!!! One minute they're being shot at and the next minute everyone is friendly enough to allow the show's cameraman to do his job by getting cutaways and reverse angles. This is not real it's scripted drama.

IMO this article should focus on how this type of program is the next phase/future of reality TV because the show is just hokey intended for viewers who think WWE is real too. There are several reasons why this type of show has come about. First cost. Real reality TV involves standing around for hours waiting for any stuff of interst to happen. Cameras, sound, production crews all cost money. It's better pay people to work than hanging about. Second time, same as the first point but more crucial in making series and hitting deadlines. Production companies need footage - they can't be halfway through their shooting schedule and only have enough material for two episodes but they're contracted to make 12 or 13. This type of show already knows its shooting schedule because everything is contrived. Third editorial structure. Things can easily be made into narrative rather than episodic. The show makers have complete control over content. Meaning they know what will be said and how that can be turned into a story.

In conclusion this article does not address these issues. Instead it keeps to the official line of the show's makers that state this should be considered to be reality TV but with a few concessions. However people should be aware that Wikipedia has paid editors who often do not disclose their connection to the topics they edit. As this article is only the second hit to the show's official website on Google, the importance of keeping a certain "myth" alive becomes an imperative. The lede of this article is totally gibberish because a falsehood takes precedence over an obvious truth.

Lizard Lick is to reality TV as WWE wrestling is to Ultimate Fighting Championship. Yet this article is too afraid to state that as per WP:SPADE... 86.182.42.89 (talk) 12:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

How many seasons?

The article states there were four seasons in most places but the info box at top right says seven. IMDB also says seven seasons.

IMDB says:

Season 1: 12 episodes from Feb 7, 2011 to Oct 10, 2011.

Season 2: 26 episodes from Dec 5, 2011 to Sep 2012.

Season 3: 13 episodes from Jun 11, 2012 to Sep 3, 2012. (note that seems to overlap with the previous season).

Season 4: 13 episodes from Jan 21 2013 to Apr 22, 2013.

Season 5: 13 episodes from Jul 8, 2013 to Sep 30, 2013.

Season 6: 14 episodes from Dec 16, 2013 to Mar 31, 2014.

Season 7: 13 episodes from May 26, 2014 to Aug 18, 2014.

The list in the Wikipedia article seems to agree on the first and second seasons. Then what Wiki is listing as the third season appears to be a combination of IMDB's forth and fifth seasons. And Wiki's forth season appears to be a combo of IMDB's sixth and seventh seasons.

The oddity is IMDB's third season. At first glance, I'd think it was the second half of what they list as season two due to date overlapping. But when you check the episode descriptions, they seem to be entirely different.

There's definitely some weird issues on both Wikipedia and IMDB about the number of seasons, episodes and dates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.31.52.185 (talk) 20:22, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Bobby's wife

If I recall correctly, the show has one woman that is supposedly Bobby's wife but websites show an entirely different woman. That or there was something about it showing him having a girlfriend but in reality he was married to somebody else. There was something that just didn't agree when it came to the woman in his life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.31.52.185 (talk) 20:27, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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