Talk:Lockheed C-130 Hercules/Archive 2
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H-4 Hercules omitted?
Seems like a glaring omission on this page of a link(in "See Also" or in the "for other" section) or mention of the Spruce Goose given that both aircraft were designed with troop and vehicular transport in mind, both had development funding provided by the military, both shared the name "Hercules", and both were from similar time periods(the goose being the earlier "Hercules" named aircraft). Personally I've always wondered if Lockheed used the "Hercules" moniker under instruction/inspiration given the reputation of the Hughes Hercules and their desire to establish a pattern of design(or a specific class of plane). Colliric (talk) 11:58, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Keyhole (KH) Satellite Film Retrieval
Why is there no mention in the Operational section of the use of C-130's for mid-air retrieval of Keyhole satellite film packages? This was before the use of electronic imaging in orbital reconnaissance satellites, when they were still using high resolution film cameras. It seems to be a glaring omission, especially since there is a photograph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KH_film_recovery.jpg) illustrating this in the page. Can anyone provide documented text explaining this? Gil gosseyn (talk) 07:00, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- It has been omitted because you have not added it yet. "The encyclopedia anyone can edit" is not just an empty slogan, if you have good sources you are welcome to add the missing information. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:10, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- Probably better in one of the variant articles like Lockheed HC-130. MilborneOne (talk) 08:26, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
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62-1857 on display
62-1857 http://www.carolinasaviation.org/military/mc-130-hercules
interesting about 62-1857 is the history Vietnam. The aircraft was assigned to Keesler Airforce Base MS. when task for operation eagle claw. Aircraft has inflight refueling was needed for mission. Aircraft was used during gulf war and in support of Kosovo.
I am not good at writing a good article but I do feel this aircraft does have a very interesting history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:25F0:B689:61AA:FBA5:1318:CE70 (talk) 16:00, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
ASW version notable?
Or is it just vaporware? Hcobb (talk) 19:07, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Incidents paragraph
It does not contain all accidents and incidents, instead there is only subjective opinion about reliability of this aircraft. In past 12 months (today july 11. 2016.) this aircraft had 3 crashes. Facts are more important so this paragraph need more information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.85.159.187 (talk) 14:40, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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Ambiguous performance data
The performance data lists "Cruise speed: 292 kts (336 mph, 540 km/h)"... however this makes no mention whether this is groundspeed or airspeed, and the difference is close to 50%. This problem isn't specific to this article, however. I wonder if we can do something to clarify this, especially since Wikipedia readers are not tech savvy and should get accurate information for computing, say, a flight time over a given distance. -Rolypolyman (talk) 06:43, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
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Too much use of italics
Just about every plane designation (i.e. YC-130, etc) in this article is italicized, which is distracting because this is the only article on wikipedia that does that. Is there some reason somebody did all that, or in other words, am I going to get yelled at for removing all of that to make the article fit in with the rest of Wikipedia and everything written in English generally? Ninjalectual (talk) 03:52, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- Its not normal practice to use italics for designations. MilborneOne (talk) 08:23, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
additional surviving aircraft
There is also an EC-130E on static display at the Fort Indiantown Gap National Guard post in Lebanon County, Pennsylvania. This photo was taken in February 2018. I think I have some history on it, so I hope to properly add it to the article soon. Elsquared (talk) 04:32, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- That would be more fitting in the EC-130 article instead of here. And it seems to already listed there too. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:22, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- I didn't even think of looking for a different article on the EC-130. Thanks for the heads up. Elsquared (talk) 17:27, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
Link to replacement
Article currently reads in part
As of January 2014, Air Mobility Command, Air Force Materiel Command and the Air Force Research Lab are in the early stages of defining requirements for the C-X next generation airlifter program[30] to replace both the C-130 and C-17.
This contains an external link to https://othjournal.com/2017/03/06/next-gen-cx/ (which somehow the source text editor missed). Such an inline link violates our normal practice.
And perhaps we need an article on the C-X next generation airlifter program, or a wikilink to it (rather than the external link) if it already exists. Andrewa (talk) 19:44, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
- That's not enough to justify a stand alone article now, imo. And I don't remember seeing any news on C-X in Defense and Aerospace news, but maybe that's been called something else like Next Generation Transport or Transport Replacement program. -Fnlayson (talk) 20:27, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
- Another possibility would be to have a short subsection in this article.
- I might have a go at that, using the source cited... assuming othjournal.com is considered a reliable secondary source. We don't seem to have an article on it, but a source can be non-notable and still reliable. Andrewa (talk) 22:00, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, that'd be a fine start. If the subsection gets too large, we follow WP:SPLIT and split it off to a new article (or other article). -Fnlayson (talk) 22:37, 30 June 2019 (UTC)