Talk:Logos and uniforms of the New York Mets

Mets racing stripe jersey

I noticed one of the sleeves of the Mets racing stripe jersey has something in white written. Not sure what that is but if anyone knows it could really help me. --What was this guy eating? (talk) 23:45, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Never mind I found out it was the Rawling's logo. --What was this guy eating? (talk) 01:56, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Did the Mets wear this?

I found this image of Yorkis Pérez wearing the white uniform with "New York" on it. But I have not found other players from 1997 wearing this uniform which was his only season as a Met. This is the image [1]. So did the Mets wear this? --What was this guy eating? (talk) 03:00, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

That's the grey road jersey. The photo exposure makes it look white. GrafZeppelin127 (talk) 02:21, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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1988-92 road wordmark

The Mets' 1988-1992 block "NEW YORK" road wordmark is indisputably visually similar to the Yankees' road wordmark. However, there is no evidence or reason to believe that the Mets designed it, adopted it, used it, or stopped using it because of or based on any connection to the Yankees. (By contrast, that the Mets derived their primary blue color from the Dodgers, and their cap logo from the Giants, are well-documented.) Inter alia, although the font is the same as the Yankees' it is also the same as the names on the back of the Mets' jerseys, so it could have been designed and adopted for that reason; there's no evidence either way. And it lasted five seasons, carrying over from the pullover jerseys to the button-down jerseys in 1991, so the resemblance to the Yankees' road wordmark didn't prompt the organization to change it. As such there's no meaningful connection whatsoever between this and the Yankees other than aesthetic similarity, so there is no need or reason to mention it here. GrafZeppelin127 (talk) 16:48, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Here is SNY, the Mets' own broadcaster, mentioning the similarity (and specifically calling it "too close"). oknazevad (talk) 09:58, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Again, the resemblance is not in dispute. But that article's statement that the mark "too closely resembled the Yankees' road jersey font" is an editorial comment by the author, Danny Abriano, "Senior Editorial Producer" (i.e., "too closely" in his opinion). The article itself is a "ranking" of the "best" Mets uniforms which is indisputably an editorial/opinion piece. Editorial comments like this don't belong in Wikipedia articles. GrafZeppelin127 (talk) 12:33, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Do you have any source making that assertion. Because otherwise it's your original thought and definitely doesn't belong in the article. Notably, at no point has anyone added to the article anything more than they looked similar. The reason I think such a comparison should be included is purely my opinion, but I'm not actually putting that into the article. All I've been doing is restoring a long-standing passage from the article that was removed with, in my opinion, insufficient reason. oknazevad (talk) 19:52, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Making what "assertion"? What "original thought" are you referring to? I've been curating this article for nearly a decade; during that time there's been no comment about the 1988-92 road wordmark being similar to the Yankees' until last month, which I edited out two days later, so there's been no "long-standing passage" saying that. GrafZeppelin127 (talk) 22:25, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

The assertion that the front was the just using the name text from the back, and that they just were being cheap/lazy/whatever motive you can think of. oknazevad (talk) 22:35, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

The font *is* the same as the NOB font (Block Condensed) (see Henderson's Game Worn Guide, 2017 ed., pp. 1785 & 1787), which is all the article says. GrafZeppelin127 (talk) 02:28, 31 August 2022 (UTC)