Talk:Lombardi Award

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Seven blocks of granite?

The "Seven Blocks of Granite" was not the name of the defense Lombardi played on it was the nickname of the offensive line on which he played right guard for the 1936 Fordham University's football team. I have decided to go ahead and change it.--Mezlo 23:51, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Recent edits around Lombardi Award vs Rotary Lombardi Award

@Rla2021, Debbieelias1800, TinySparrowMarketing, X201, and Dissident93:

I haven't read enough non-primary sources to fully document a reason behind the recent spate of (SPA) accounts and edits. It appears:

• Rotary Club of Houston[1] created the "Rotary Lombardi Award" in 1970 with the blessing of the Lombardi family/widow at inception[2]
• In ~2017 the family rescinded their support/authorization,[3] possibly via The Lombardi Foundation[4]
• The Lombardi Foundation is also based in Houston[5]
• At that time, the Lombardi Foundation may or may not have tried to co-opt the award or create a new/similar award
• Template:Lombardi Award has winners 1970-2020; This article's winners table is currently 1970-2016 with 2017~2020 winners expunged days ago by a SPA[6]
• The criteria for the award has changed over time[7]
• SPA (and reader) confusion over WP:COMMONNAME usage around Lombardi Award vs Rotary Lombardi Award
• SPA confusion around copyright, logos, and prose/content in historical context

So there may or may not be two awards since ~2017, might be disagreement about the which of the two entities is associated with history prior to 2017, the era-specific criteria for the award, and determination if the topic requires two articles/two templates based on splits around specific years.

Replies with WP:citations are appreciated. UW Dawgs (talk) 20:50, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Interesting. I have no citations to back anything up, but if the award is the same but simply renamed then we should still go with the WP:COMMONNAME (Lombardi Award). ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 02:18, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

I think the problem lies in that there may be two awards given by separate organisations, the original (Rotary) is this article. It looks like the foundation is trying to adapt this article to themselves (avoiding all that tedious stuff about notability in the process) Another new account just turned up and tried to add the foundation logo to the article again with their first edit. Would pending changes protection be warranted for a while? Until we get to the bottom of it. - X201 (talk) 14:33, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

• A former president of the rotary Club is now chairman of the board of directors of the Lombardi Foundation LinkedIn (I know it's not an RS, but it at least helps us understand a bit more.
• Different trophies confirmed and finally some clarity via the Houston Chronicle - X201 (talk) 15:11, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

I restored the 2017-2020 winners and updated the Infobox with the 2020 winner for internal consistency. If there are two tracks of awarding organizations and recipients, that information needs to be sourced. UW Dawgs (talk) 15:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)