Talk:Looking in the Shadows

Removal of notablity tag

A tag was placed on the article stating:

This article may not meet a proposed guideline for notability (see Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums, singles and songs). If you are familiar with the subject matter, please expand or rewrite the article to establish its notability. The best way to address this concern is to reference published, third-party sources about the subject. If notability cannot be established, the article is more likely to be considered for redirection, merging, or deletion, per Wikipedia:Guide to deletion.

Aside from the tags removal nothing was added to the main page and no discussion was added here. The entire description and bio on the article is one line: "Looking in the shadows, released in 1996, was the fourth studio album by The Raincoats". This has been the only description on this page since February 2006. According to official English Wikipedia policy found at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information; merely being true or useful does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia."

According to the Criteria For Speedy Deletion an article may be speedily deleted if:

• A1: Very short articles lacking sufficient context to identify the subject of the article.

My intent was not have the article speedily deleted, only to have the article expanded upon if possible. According to the guidelines that were cited, Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums, singles and songs, an album must have "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". There are only two links, and they are contained in the albums info box under "Professional reviews". Two brief reviews is not "significant coverage" of the subject. As for the content, one reviewer says: "Their 'reunion' record obviously doesn't match the sheer energy and raw power of their original releases..." while the other concludes: "they offer what may be their best album". Neither of these would offer a consensus that this album in notable.

The next part of the Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums, singles and songs section states: "if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia." The important word in that passage is "may". While the band does meet the criteria for inclusion the album, as currently presented, does not. The same guideline further says: "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting".

To be clear, there currently is no Wikipedia Policy or set of Guidelines for a release distributed by a major label, or a release by a well known artist, to be provided automatic "Notability" status and exclude an article about the release from having to follow guidelines.

I will allow the article a few more weeks to see if it will be reworked to be better brought up to guidelines before it is nominated for deletion. Soundvisions1 (talk) 13:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)