Talk:Lord Granville Somerset

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Requested move 5 August 2019

Latest comment: 5 years ago6 comments6 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved.(non-admin closure) Celia Homeford (talk) 13:14, 13 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Lord Granville Somerset → Granville Somerset – First, isn't our convention that honorifics should only be part of article's titles when required for disambiguation?

Second, the current article title implies he is a member of the peerage. As the second son of a Duke the honorific "Lord" is only a courtesy. He was born and remained a commoner. Geo Swan (talk) 13:36, 5 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Support Rreagan007 (talk) 15:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
Strong oppose "Lord" forms part of the name and is not an honorific for disambiguation. It's perfectly standard to include it in the article title - see Category:Younger sons of dukes for other cases - and no case has been put forward for why Somerset should be an exception. Timrollpickering (Talk) 17:20, 5 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
Oppose. We always use the title for sons and daughters of peers who have Lord or Lady as their courtesy title if they are commonly used. This is written into the guidelines. See WP:NCPEER #5. And the title does not in the least imply he was a peer, since if he were the title would be before his surname, not his first name. This may be sadly too commonly used today, but it is wholly inaccurate. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:28, 7 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
Oppose per previous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:301:8CCF:EC16:5B1E:B54D:805 (talk) 20:32, 10 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

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