Talk:Louis Delsarte

Needs references

As per Wikipedia:Notability (people), an article about a Creative professional needs to reference published, third-party sources about the subject backing up one of one of the following criteria that pertains to artists:

• The person's work either:
• (a) has been displayed in a significant exhibition or as a monument (current article fails)
• (b) has won significant critical attention (current article fails)
• (c) is represented within the permanent collection of a significant gallery or museum of more than local significance. (current article fails)

If any of these notability citations exists they need to be added to the article or it may be listed for deletion. Fountains of Bryn Mawr 19:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I find your objections incomprehensible.

(1) Your heading says, "Needs references". Have you noticed the many book references, including significant solo and group exhibition catalogues, each linked directly to the Worldcat record for the book?

(2) As for "has been displayed in a significant exhibition", have you not noticed, just to take one example, the solo exhibition at the Bodley Gallery in New York? The Bodley Gallery presented solo exhibitions of Andy Warhol, Max Ernst, Roberto Matta, Mina Loy, Victor Brauner, and Larry Rivers during their lifetimes, among many other notables. Didn't know that? Well, maybe you could have clicked on the link to the article. Click on the Worldcat link to the Delsarte solo exhibition catalogue if you doubt its existence.

(3) "has won significant critical attention": I should think that inclusion in this book would alone suffice:

Henderson, Ashyia N. Contemporary Black biography, profiles from the international Black community (Farmington Hill, MI : Gale, 2002) ISBN 0787660493; ISBN 9780787660499 (Worldcat link: [1]).

Click on the Worldcat link and see the list of people covered.

I'm sorry, but I find your facile designation of this article's subject as lacking notablility to be indicative of arrogance and carelessness, given the information under your nose which you chose to ignore. MdArtLover 16:22, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: "significant critical attention": I also refer you to an item now added to the bibliography: Lewis, Samella S.; African American art and artists (Berkeley : University of California Press, 1990) ISBN 0520087887 ISBN 9780520087880 ISBN 0520085329 ISBN 9780520085329 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarylandArtLover (talk • contribs) 17:06, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Please read the tag and understand Wikipedia policies re: notability.

• "references" required are NOT book references that this artist exist, they are references that this artist is "notable"... they are two different things.
• Just because a commercial art gallery has exhibited "notable" artists in that past does not mean the current artist in question's exhibit there is notable. "a significant exhibition" is an exhibit such as the Biennale, not a commercial gallery exhibit.
• "has won significant critical attention", again you need to cite references making such claims... not just ones that show the artists in question exists. The reference's in question at the time I added the tag did not make claims of notability per say.
• The current article seems to show notability so will not re-add tag. Fountains of Bryn Mawr 20:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

You write: "*"references" required are NOT book references that this artist exist, they are references that this artist is "notable"... they are two different things."

How about this: please, yourself, understand what should be patently obvious: that the qualification threshhold for Delsarte's inclusion in a book such as A. N. Henderson's Contemporary Black Biography, profiles from the international Black community, which was already among the sources listed here at the time you issued your non-notability fiat, could not possibly be merely that the artist exists. MdArtLover 14:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

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