Talk:Louis William Valentine DuBourg/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 02:22, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Starts GA Review; the review will follow the same sections of the Article. --Whiteguru (talk) 02:22, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

 

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Observations

• We need to say where St Marys Seminary is in the lede ( in Baltimore, Maryland;)
  • Done. Ergo Sum 03:17, 13 March 2021 (UTC)  Done
• Georgetown College (at the end) we need to say either at Christmas or on Christmas day.
  • Took the language of the source and changed it to "at Christmas." Ergo Sum 04:58, 13 March 2021 (UTC)  Done
• There were also many poor Black Baltimoreans. With John Tessier, DuBourg established a congregation (of what, for whom?) for them that met and celebrated Mass at St. Mary's Chapel. We need to make it clear early in the first sentence (or remainder) that this was a Congregation for free women of color.
  • I'm not entirely sure I follow, but I've combined the two sentences. I think this resolves any ambiguity. Ergo Sum 05:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Just want to clarify that the source does not say the congregation was only for women, but that it gave rise to female religious order. I've clarified this in the article. The congregation was also created for black people in Baltimore, not people of color. That's a very new concept that certainly did not exist at this time. Ergo Sum 05:19, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
    • a set of very sagacious observations. Certainly improves the article, thank you for your thoughtful reflections here.  Done
• DuBourg functioned as their ecclesiastical superior. This is an irregular arrangement, as the normal superior of women's congregations was the local ordinary.
  • I'll take your word for it; I'm not terribly familiar with the relationship between provincial superiors and local bishops. I assume that the local bishop was still the ultimate superior, since I don't think canon law has ever allowed for a bishop to renounce a portion of his authority and vest it in someone else, but that DuBourg was the intermediate authority. It seems that in the early United States, there were many irregular arrangements of ecclesiastical authority. Ergo Sum 05:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
    Resolved
    Agreed, many arrangements in the New World were irregular, take his consecration of his coadjutor, for example. Your comment is good summary.
• Bishop of Louisanna: Unable to continue by stage, (stagecoach?)
  • I think stage is an accepted synonym for stagecoach, but I've changed it to stagecoach for good measure. Ergo Sum 05:12, 13 March 2021 (UTC) Done

Final

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

Kindly consider the matters above. --Whiteguru (talk) 03:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Whiteguru. Ergo Sum 05:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Ergo Sum for your prompt attention and courtesy.

 Passed

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