Talk:Louise Glück

Generally badly-written

Overall, this article is overly verbose and redundant/boring. Someone needs to go through it and axe unnecessary words; redundant statements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.127.55.252 (talk) 04:57, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. Just a few notes on your post: 1) There's no need to hyphenate "badly-written," because there's never a need to use a hyphen after adverbs ending in -ly; the ending signals modification of the word that comes after. 2) Your first sentence claims the article is redundant, but there is no other article about Louise Glück on English Wikipedia. Are you sure you've said what you meant? 3) "Verbose" means using more words than are needed; given this, is it ever necessary to say "overly verbose"? 4) For that matter, here's a version of your post with the redundancies removed: "This article is verbose and boring. It needs editing." See what I did there? I hope this is helpful! IbIANTiA (talk) 10:05, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Photo?

I have to say that I don't contribute much to Wikipedia except for grammar stuff and some IPA, but I'm wondering if this graphical depiction of Louise Glück is entirely appropriate, since it's a drawing; not only that, but it's also a drawing done by the uploader! I would like to remove it, if no one objects. Z.L. (talk) 08:28, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

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Organizational and Content Changes

Hi Wikipedians - I've just done a major rewrite of this article and wanted to leave a brief explanation. Basically, I thought the article left much to be desired. It read too much like a back-of-the-book bio, and it included some incorrect information (for example, listing Gluck's alma mater as Columbia when she in fact did not graduate, or claiming that her father was an immigrant when he was not, or listing "Mock Orange" as a collection of poetry when it's in fact a single poem, etc.). So I wanted to address that, as well as add some more sections for a brief overview of her work, titles for further reading, and a fuller list of her many awards. I've tried to include citations wherever possible. Of course, if you see anything amiss, please feel free to proceed as you see fit. Thanks. IbIANTiA (talk) 22:13, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Anorexia

I am not familiar with Glück's poetry, but it seems like mentioning anorexia in the lede is WP:UNDUE, especially for a BLP, unless it is clearly significant to her work. I would suggest removing. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 13:42, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Glück has written about her struggle with the disease, and the treatment she underwent because of it, as a major incident in her life, and has also discussed it publicly. (See, for example, her interview with the American Academy of Achievement, where she describes it as "very, very important" to her personal and artistic development.) IbIANTiA (talk) 13:59, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

German pronunciation of the name?

Do we really need the German pronunciation of Ms. Glück's name? She has no German ancestry, she was born in the US (as well as her parents), and she pronounces her name /ɡlɪk/. What possible relevance does it have that there is a German word that is a homonym of her name, and why is it relevant in an English-language article about an American poet how Germans pronounce that word? Would we want to note in the German Wikipedia that Michael Beer's name is pronounced /bɪə/ in English, seeing that, you know, beer is an English word? --Malatinszky (talk) 15:39, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Given that her paternal grandparents, Hungarian Jews, certainly spoke German at home, which explains the orthography of her family name (Glück), I think it is interesting to note. Btw, if her paternal grandparents (and her father who came to the US for that matter) would have preferred Yiddish, nothing would have stopped them to write their lastname "Glick", which is actually a lastname that exists among Ashkenazi Jews (and ethnic Germans in Eastern Europe). So I don't see a problem here - there should be no space for Germanophobia here. 2600:1700:1650:3F50:F597:20C7:3877:D131 (talk) 16:40, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

I take strong exception to your backhanded accusation of Germanophobia, which I won't even dignify by refuting it. That sort of "argument" should have no space here. --Malatinszky (talk) 16:52, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

As an Austrian I naturally pronounce her name "Glick" in Austrian dialect, and so would Yiddish people throughout the Austrian-Hungarian empire have done. Since the German Wikipedia also refers to the English/Yiddish pronunciation as [ˈglɪk] only, I vote for removing the "standard German" pronunciation. With a German mother tongue I don't perceive that as germanophobic. Gérard007 (talk) 17:22, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

I substituted the word "life" for "legend" referring to Joan of Arc

Hi I didn't plan on changing that word. I wanted to comment to the article's editor and didn't know how. But now I've managed to find my self here. First I hope you'll forgive my intrusiveness. I am not invested in this change. And this is your article. So I wont mind if you change it back. What I wanted to do I'll do now. Talk to the editor;

Joan of Arc's life was legendary but the article implies it was a legend. I had a co-worker once ask me if Rasputin had been a real person in history. Being a history guy I couldn't quite take him seriously. That someone could reach adulthood and not know something like that seemed improbable to me. I was terribly wrong. So it's important not to steer the many, with little interest or knowledge of history, in the wrong direction. Even accidentally. You might want to use something like "the legend creating life of Joan of Arc". But it's your article and I didn't mean to rush in and make a change. It happened because I didn't know how to get to this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:4202:D9D0:CD12:1B41:FBD:584 (talk) 16:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

There is ample proof throughout history that supports Joan of Arc (Jehanne d'Arc) was a real person. While it is true that like many figures in history the facts can be embellished over time, she did exist and did have an impact upon history. I do not support changing "life" to "legend" as it is undisputed that she was not just a legend. Please see https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Joan-of-Arc/Capture-trial-and-execution and https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/frances-leading-lady-155924716/ Jurisdicta (talk) 04:10, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Current residence needs update

Gluck now lives in Montpelier, Vermont (January 2022). source: article in Seven Days VT 1.19.22 65.183.137.162 (talk) 01:05, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Appreciation for article on Louise Glück As a non-specialist I think it’s thorough and informative - not just listing book titles but giving brief comments about style and changes in style or focus. 100.17.25.94 (talk) 23:27, 28 September 2023 (UTC)