Talk:Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport

Needs images of terminal building

This article could use some internal and external images of the terminal building. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 15:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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SDF Airport data discrepancy

Good day.There is a discrepancy in how large SDF airport actually is.In the first paragraph and near the bottom of the article, it states SDF Airport is about 1500 acres in size. Go to Reference #1(FAA Airport Master record for SDF) and also Google SDF Airport Skyvector and both say the area of SDF is 1,200 acres.This is the only US airport wiki page with this discrepancy. Their webpage is the source of the stat there now. I did e-mail them 2 years ago and the figure of 1,500 acres is the correct figure.I know it seems inane but can you look into this for me. Thank you and have a great day.2601:581:8500:949C:B123:E549:142:175D (talk) 12:41, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Corrected to FAA data. MilborneOne (talk) 17:05, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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Requested move 8 June 2019

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The result of the move request was: not moved. There is no consensus at this time for the move. (non-admin closure) Calidum 05:45, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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Louisville International Airport → Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport – Airport rename became official 6/6/2019. https://www.whas11.com/video/news/local/seen-on-tv/louisvilles-airport-officially-renamed/417-2a11bd1a-0a11-44d1-879e-da0ac952622b 75.18.105.167 (talk) 19:48, 7 June 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 18:16, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Sam Sailor 06:28, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

See WP:COMMONNAME and WP:OFFICIALNAME. Readers are likely to look for and expect the current name, that its official name has changed is not sufficient reason to move it. Wugapodes [t^hɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 19:57, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with * '''Support''' or * '''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Oppose. The current title Louisville International Airport is by far the most commonly used. Sam Sailor 06:32, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose move absent sources. Does not yet appear to be the common name. O.N.R. ^(talk) 20:33, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
• Support. The title should reflect the official marketed name, which is now Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport. Not a drastic enough change to the title to oppose for "common name" issues. Ryan 20:37, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
• Support. Every other airport page I can find on Wikipedia uses the official name as the title. This airport name is no different than any other airport named after a famous person: John Glen (Columbus, OH), Louis Armstrong (New Orleans, LA), William Hobby (Houston, TX), Ted Stevens (Anchorage, AK), William Hopkins (Cleveland, OH). All of these airports reflect their official name in the title, but I do not think their namesakes are any more common. This page wiki should conform to every other major airport on Wikipedia. Logan 20:21, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
• Support. It seems to be convention for Wikipedia to use the official name, cf also Chicago/Rockford Airport. OakGust00 (talk) 21:45, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose seems the official name is little used and even the airports logo uses the common name as well as most of the pages on the official website. No precedent to use the official name on airports that I am aware of as it is better to use the common name in most instances. MilborneOne (talk) 12:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

The airport has introduced a new logo that uses the new official name.[1]SixFourThree (talk) 14:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)SixFourThree

• Support Adding sources, have already commented above in support. Lngarrett1020 (talk) 22:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
• Support. In addition to the articles previously listed where official name is used as the title, see Milwaukee Mitchell International Airport, Charles M. Schulz–Sonoma County Airport, and Long Island MacArthur Airport. SixFourThree (talk) 14:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)SixFourThree

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Requested move 29 October 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. Editors reached consensus that the sources furnished were sufficient to demonstrate that "Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport" has become the predominant name sources use for the airport, and thus that the article title should follow suit per WP:NAMECHANGES. A counterargument based in Ngrams did not receive comparable support. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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Louisville International Airport → Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport – The airport was officially renamed 'Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport' in 2019. Although there was previously a move discussion in 2019 where it was argued that this name was not yet commonly recognized. But the name 'Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport' is now well established and widely used in official sources, media, and public. Moving the page to reflect the official, widely recognized name aligns with Wikipedia’s naming conventions for commonly used and official names. Cerium4B (talk) 21:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:43, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• Move to Standiford Field. Ngrams are here. It didn't find any use of the proposed name and says it found only one use of the current article title. Wikipedia is supposed to lag behind sources, not take the lead. The airport has no international passenger flights, so it's unlikely to really have a common name that includes "International", and a polysyllabic five-word name that's 45 characters long seems pretty dubious as a common name as well. Nothing against the Greatest Champ of All Time, of course. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Some examples: The FAA refers to the airport as "Louisville International-Standiford Field Airport" (see here). TripAdvisor calls it "Standiford Field". If you want to rent a car from Hertz, you'll find that airport identified there as "Louisville Standiford Field". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

@BarrelProof

• “Standiford Field Airport” was the earlier name of this airport - check About section
• Almost everywhere the name 'Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport' is mentioned!

References-

1. from the government
2. https://www.flylouisville.com/summer-travel-proves-record-setting-at-louisville-muhammad-ali-international-airport/
3. official website (check their name, logo & everything…)
4. https://skybrary.aero/airports/ksdf
5. http://www.airnav.com/airport/ksdf
6. https://www.bourboncountry.com/directory/louisville-muhammad-ali-international-airport/
7. https://m.yelp.com/biz/louisville-muhammad-ali-international-airport-louisville
8. https://www.aopa.org/destinations/airports/SDF/details
9. https://www.globalair.com/airport/louisville-muhammad-ali-international-sdf.aspx
10. https://www.waze.com/live-map/directions/sdf-louisville-muhammad-ali-international-airport-arriving-terminal-dr?to=place.w.179765630.1797394155.399619
11. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2024/07/03/louisville-international-airport-main-airport-in-kentucky-sdf-muhammad-ali/74289592007/
12. https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/louisville-muhammad-ali-international-airport/40209/weather-forecast/5500_poi
13. https://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/news/2024/03/15/kentucky-derby-150-louisville-airport-flights.html
14. https://www.uber.com/global/en/r/airports/sdf/car-rentals/

• On social media platforms -

1. https://m.facebook.com/louisvilleinternationalairport/
2. https://www.facebook.com/louisvilleinternationalairport/posts/-spooky-season-is-in-full-swing-at-sdf-our-terminals-newest-visitor-may-be-all-b/937314825109763/
3. https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/1021013470/louisville-muhammad-ali-international-airport-sdf/
4. https://x.com/wave3news/status/1814252595524870384
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWae2PeKp9M
6. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/flylouisville_flylouisville-activity-7154172232020160514-gN4S

• As this airport has been officially renamed as “Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport” in 2019, obviously this name will become more familiar day by day and you too must accept it.
• I have provided official references, news references, agency references and also social media references to prove what common people call this airport.
• I think no further examples are needed.

Cerium4B (talk) 19:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

A lot of those links are from the same source – the marketing department of the airport itself. Please see WP:OFFICIAL. Flylouisville.com is the airport's own website (cited twice in a row in your list), and nearly all of the social media links are the airport's own Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and LinkedIn pages. Bourboncountry.com is another affiliated promotional site. The local government is another affiliated source – isn't the airport owned and operated by the local government? Remember that the FAA is "the government" too. Wikipedia prefers the WP:COMMONNAME and WP:Independent reliable sources. If you ask someone which airport they're talking about, nobody's reply is going to be "Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport" – at least partly because it's not an international airport as far as passengers are concerned. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 04:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

A note on your last point, there is no other major airport in Louisville, so naturally people are going to refer to it as "Louisville Airport." Sure, there's Bowman Field, but nobody commercially flies out of there, and most people refer to it as "Bowman" anyways. SouthernDude297 (talk) 23:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support, Cerium4B seems to have proven their case here with a well-sourced reference list. The airport's logo also supports the move, both in wording and graphics. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:20, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support, it is the official name of the airport and the article title should reflect that. Cerium4B lists many good sources where this is shown. SouthernDude297 (talk) 23:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support; seems to be the common name in the press as of late, which I think is enough to satisfy WP:NAMECHANGES. Ngrams are generally not very useful in a situation like this. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)