Talk:Lovesick Blues/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Esprit15d (talk · contribs) 16:16, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

A quick overview of this article has shown that a lot of dedicated and conscientious editing has gone into it, and for that I commend the editors. These are my comments and suggestions:

• "is a show tune credited to Cliff Friend": I would say "written by". "Credited" is technically correct, but it implies that it could actually have been composed by someone else. See WP:ALLEGED. I know there was confusion over the rights, but isn't it true that Friend and Mills wrote it? You can just state the facts in the lead, and further reading will cover the legal controversy. Alternately, you could briefly mention that "despite some controversy..." or something like that in the lead.
• "MGM Records released "Lovesick Blues" on February 1949": Give the full date
• "The publication named it the top country & western record of the year": spell out "and"
• "The most popular, Frank Ifield's 1962 version topped the UK Singles Chart.": Comma after "version"
• " in the Tin Pan Alley musical Oh! Ernest [1]": Citations should go after punctuation, so I would normally say move that to the end of the sentence, but a comma can go after Ernest
• " featured on a show": Shouldn't it say "in a show"?
• "released on November 1925.": Give the full date. If you don't have it, say "November of 1925"
• "accompanied by (Tommy Dorsey, Jimmy Dorsey, Eddie Lang, and Leo McConville), collectively known as the Georgia Crackers, Miller": Remove the parentheses and add them around "collectively known as the Georgia Crackers"
• "joining on August 1948.": Whenever you say "on" a date, it has to include the day (eg. on December 1, 2014). Otherwise, you have to say in MONTH of YEAR.
• "Horace Logan,": rm redlink
• "Williams stood pat ": "stood pat" is a colloquial term that most readers won't understand. Rephrase without using that idiom.
• "Williams combined Griffin's lyrical arrangement [14] with a two-beat honky-tonk track,": Citations go behind punctuation. Move behind the comma or at the end of the sentence
• "Friend's rights during the great depression": Great Depression should be capitalized
• " peaked at number fifteen ": Should be "number 15". I notice you spell out a lot of words. There IS a small school of thought that says you can spell out any number (even if it's above ten) if it is one or two words. Is this your approach? If so, you can keep these (and the other examples in the artle) spelled out.
• "song peaked at eighty-seven": Should be "87"
• "number forty-four": Should be "44".
• " to 'Lovesick Blues'", the review ": Put a period after "Blues".
• The referencing in this article is outstanding, especially for such an old topic. I went to Google Books and checked some of the references, and they look good. I did notice, however, that you didn't include the location in the book citations. Google Books doesn't provide that information (and I won't fail over this issue) but when you get a chance, see if you can hunt those down, since it is technically a part of the citation.
• I think the album label is an acceptable picture under fair use, but it is not an album cover, so the wrong license is used. Instead, use {{Non-free fair use}}, and fill it in accordingly.
• The song sample is too long, as it cannot exceed 10% of the songs running time. The sample has to be reduced to 16 seconds.

Great job so far. I am placing this article on hold until these matters are addressed.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 17:07, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Done did most of what you suggested. I chose to keep the numbers like they are, for some reason I feel that it's more appropriate to spell'em out. I'll shorten the sample, and I'll probably look into the book locations when available.--GDuwenTell me! 19:41, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Good changes, and let me know when the sample gets corrected. Also, there a are a few more issues:

• "On June 12, 1928, accompanied by Tommy Dorsey, Jimmy Dorsey, Eddie Lang, and Leo McConville), collectively known as the Georgia Crackers. "—This is not a complete sentence and I recommend removing the comma after 1928 and adding a parenthesis there. The one parenthesis doesn't have a partner.
• "Williams persisted,F and"—remove the F (which I'm sure is a typo)
• "The record was rated with 85 points by disc jockeys, 82 by record dealers and 85 by jukebox operators. Between the three, the track scored an overall of 84. "—I've never heard of this practice before (and I believe it might be obsolete), so you might want to start this off this sentence by alluding that these votes were submitted to Billboard or something. As I was reading, I was confused as to what ratings it was referring to, and honestly, I'm still not 100% sure.
• I realize that this is a very old song, and I won't fail you for this, but I just realized that pretty much all the critical reviews are from Billboard, accept from Cashbox. Can you find any from any other sources?
• "Billboard estimated that the single sold close"— Should be "had sold"
• "covers include Slim Whitman"— Should be "covers include versions by Slim Whitman"

I'll keep an eye on this page for when you make the changes.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 13:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Yea, that point system is completely obsolete, alright. Since it was published like that back in 49', I decided to merely include it as information. I tried to clarify that the points were votes. With the reviews, I used all the ones I could find. Unfortunately not much more material is available.--GDuwenTell me! 19:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

I shortened the sample to 14 seconds.--GDuwenTell me! 20:38, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

I am going to pass the article, it's really good. HOwever, There are two more things that have to fixed, so promise me you will:

• "Based on votes sent to Billboard, the record was rated with 85 points by disc jockeys, 82 by record dealers and 85 by jukebox operators. Between the three, the track scored an overall of 84. Following its 100-point maximum rating, Billboard regarded the record as "Excellent"": This is still confusing. The part about voting clears things up A LOT, but still it sounds like the song got a 85 rating, then got a 100 rating. I THINK it's saying that it's on a 100-point scale, but that needs to be phrased better.
• "the single hadf sold"—Remove the "f"

Otherwise, great job, and I'm promoting the article.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 13:59, 8 December 2014 (UTC)