Talk:Lower North Shore (Sydney)

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moved sentence from article, this is contentious, I've certainly never heard anybody in sydney ever use this convoluted reference. of course, if somebody provides a good source maybe it should go in:

Someone from Lower Northern Sydney is often refered to as a "Lower Northern Sydneysider" or as a "Lower North Shoresman/woman".

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this article should probably be merged with North Shore (Sydney), at the very least a summary of the information here should be included in the top-level article and a companion Upper North Shore (Sydney) article should be written. the main overall north shore article should certainly not be shorter than this article. clarkk 09:47, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

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For a while in the 80's and 90's, most of Lower Northern Sydney was not as wealthy as it is today. Fibro houses were not uncommon in the region's western half and there was a short-lived period where gang activity was evident in Ryde (Armenian gangs), Chatswood (Triads), and (Anglo-Australian gangs) in several areas. Today however, crime in the region is very low and gang activity is almost dead with focus moving more towards the south western suburbs.

Utter rubbish. I have lived in this region for over 40 years. This is drivel. I lived in Ryde during the 1990s and never noticed any exceptional 'gang activity'. It is debatable as to whether Ryde would be considered part of Lower Northern Sydney anyway. The comment about "Fibro houses" is unhelpful if no explanation as to what they are (low cost housing originally provided after WWII to returned serviceman) is provided. The paragraph as it stands is unsupported and probably racist in intent. The demographics of the region did not change markedly through the 80s or 90s. pinglis 29 June 2006

Original research

This article has a lot of information but no references at all. --WikiCats 09:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

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Since when is Ryde part of Lower North Shore - it's part of the western suburbs. Always has been. [wanders off to go find some references]...

JL

I agree. The whole City of Ryde area isn't part of the Lower North Shore and it never has been. I'd fix up this article but I'm really tired... put it on my list for another year... John Wormell (talk) 09:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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Port Jackson Harbour?

What the?? No wonder it was red-linked. Changed to Port Jackson (not red-linked). I agree that there is a lot unreferenced phooey in this article. Needs a copyedit. Bleakcomb (talk) 23:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Partial copyedit

Well, well. Where do you start?

• The fact that the 2007 Granny Smith Festival turned into a political bun-fight(if, in fact it did) is I assume not a regional tradition and has been deleted from that section.
• The article is Lower North Shore, but the text refers to Lower North Sydney or Northern Sydney. Needs more care and focus.
• Sounds like a brochure? I'm sold. I'll buy one. Needs a copyedit to remove all the flowery language and topics. I think though removing all the make-believe and unreferenced tosh first will make a copyedit a shorter job.
• Global Sydney, Sydney Global Corridor - don't make me laugh. I can't think what prevented me from deleting this. Perhaps it was the whole two Google search results. I'll delete tomorrow, though.
• Haven't the The Lane Cove Azalea Beds been removed? Bleakcomb (talk) 01:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Update - this article was Lower Northern Sydney, but was changed to Lower North Shore. Lower Northern Sydney is, if nothing else, a Statistical area used by the ABS. I think the name has no cultural usage, unlike the ill-defined Lower North Shore. Lower Northern Sydney as defined by the ABS does include the LGA of the City of Ryde. It seems a shame that the original article has been lost as it would have been quite useful when describing statistics. As it stands it probably should be deleted. It has information from both articles, but represents neither well. Bleakcomb (talk) 03:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC)