Talk:Luciano González (footballer)

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Requested move 30 December 2022

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The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure) Elme12 (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

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Luciano González (footballer) → Luciano González (Spanish footballer) – WP:AT / WP:PRECISE ambiguous disambiguation is a bad idea. There are multiple footballers by this name. The Argentinian Luciano González (rugby union) is a type of footballer; the current title should point to the disambiguation page Luciano González -- 64.229.90.28 (talk) 17:02, 28 December 2022 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 14:31, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

• Currently title is adequately precise. In the future, if we have another article that could be at the source, we can revisit the issue. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

  We already have another article that could be described as a footballer, the rugby footballer. Thus this fails WP:CRITERIA "Precision – The title unambiguously identifies the article's subject and distinguishes it from other subjects" as it does not does not distinguish between football codes, as rugby players, Aussie-rules players, etc are all called "footballer" -- 64.229.90.28 (talk) 04:01, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

  I concur; per Rugby union, the sport is a code...of rugby football (emphasis mine). I'd open a RM. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 03:48, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:NCSP, we only use the (footballer) disambiguator for association and Australian rules footballers. Rugby disambiguators are different.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:26, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

  Agree with this. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 16:37, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

  That has nothing to do with failing WP:PRECISE, that only has to do with the choice of article disambiguator, not whether the choice of disambiguator is ambiguous. NCSP does not say that "footballer" does not mean a rugby player, only that you should not use it to title a rugby player article. This title is still ambiguous, as almost all readers of Wikipedia do no memorize NCSP. Only people who memorize NCSP would know that footballer would never title a rugby player article. While in the world at large, "footballer" is used to refer to rugby player as well as Aussie-rules and association football, and is thus 'ambiguous to the readership'. It is easily shown that this is the case in the real world outside of Wikipedia. [1][2][3][4][5][6] -- 64.229.90.28 (talk) 19:48, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 13:05, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose - no ambiguity between the association football player and the rugby player. GiantSnowman 15:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. No ambiguity here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:51, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

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