Talk:Ludlam Building

Removal of information which violates wikipedia policy

Information was included in this article under false pretence. The website which much of the content was taken from (and which has "granted permission" for its content to be included) lists WIKIPEDIA (the Oyster Bay wikipedia article) as the only source under its bibliography. This is a violation of one of the fundamental policies of wikipedia which states that articles cannot cite wikipedia as a source for information. Further, the website that has granted permission for the inclusion of all this questionable content is an audio tour, with no written content. The lack of any specific documented sources for so much elaborate and detailed information is even more cause for more question and concern over validity as well as possible copyright violations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.1.48.46 (talk) 00:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

(Following is copy of my response to non-logged in user in each of about 20 articles where he/she made the same incorrect accusation --Doncram)

The non-logged in user is/was incorrect about any copyvio being present. There is no use of wikipedia as the source, although some or all of the same material may appear in the Oyster Bay History Walk article which is under development. The main source material is from the audio tour, for which there is no copyright issue due to an OTRS copyright release, with proper notice given. The tour is not available on-line, but that is okay. It is like citing from an off-line book, which is fine. You have to trust the wikipedia editor that what is written is a valid representation of what is in the source. However, I do think that some better attribution is needed, probably a footnote to the audio tour for each paragraph and/or substantial assertion in the article. Footnoting just to the audio tour introduction, rather than a specific place in the audio tour or to the whole item, looks incorrect too. And, I think perhaps long passages may be verbatim copies of what is in the audio, in which case those should be shown as explicit quotations. Without access to the audio tour myself, i am reluctant/unable to put in the proper sourcing myself, but this is not copyvio. doncram (talk) 16:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

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