Talk:Luigi Galleani/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Amitchell125 (talk · contribs) 07:18, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Happy to review the article. AM

Review comments

Lead section / infobox

• Unlink United States; World War I (MOS:OL].

•  Done Unlinked. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Fascism generally has no capitals.

•  Done De-capitalised. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Link reformist socialists (Reformism#Socialism).

•  Done Moved link over, de-linked second instance of reformism. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Luigi Galleani (1906) - I would amend the caption in the infobox to ‘A 1906 police photograph of Galleani’

•  Done Amended. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• There is no need to link Italy twice in the infobox.

• The reason they're linked is because one links to the Kingdom of Italy and the other to Fascist Italy (1922–1943). How should I proceed? --Grnrchst (talk) 19:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

I see. I would then replace the first Italy with 'Kingdom of Italy'. The second Italy I would leave unlinked as 'Kingdom of Italy', and not bother to use the separate link. Amitchell125 (talk) 07:20, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done Replaced with "Kingdom of Italy" in both cases. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:28, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Early life

• Pietro Gori needs to be introduced.

•  Done Introduced as "Sicilian anarchist" --Grnrchst (talk) 19:18, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• On August 12, 1861, Luigi Galleani - ‘Luigi Galleani was born on 12 August, 1861’ sounds better imo.

•  Done Rearranged. Although I've retained MDY for now. Should I use DMY for the article instead? --Grnrchst (talk) 19:18, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Personally (and I think others would agree), I think DMY work well as the numbers are separated by text. Amitchell125 (talk) 16:50, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

• Link anarchism.

•  Done --Grnrchst (talk) 19:18, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Labor movement activism

• Link Turin; Biella.

•  Done Linked. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• between the two - ‘between the two parties’ is clearer.

•  Done Clarified. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Unlink France; Switzerland.

•  Done Unlinked. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Introduce Elisee Reclus, Giovanni Domanico, and Filippo Turati.

•  Done Introduced as "French anarchist geographer", "Calabrese anarchist" and "Lombard lawyer" respectively. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• honour – a British spelling in an article with American spellings?

•  Done Fixed. My mistake. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Avoid stillborn; spearheaded, which are idiomatic (see MOS:IDIOM).

•  Done Changed to "unsuccessful" and "led" respectively. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Add a comma after in Vercelli (minor point).

•  Done Added. --Grnrchst (talk)

• However, relations between the anarchists and the POI were again worsening – consider amending to something like ‘Relations between the anarchists and the POI worsened’, to improve the prose.

•  Done Rewritten per your suggestion. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• In 1889 - ‘threatened him with arrest in 1889, he fled’ or ‘threatened him with arrest, in 1889 he fled’?

•  Done Removed comma, per suggestion. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Exile

• Link conspiracy; extradition.

•  Done Linked. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Link Fatti di Maggio (Bava Beccaris massacre). The words are Italian, and so need to be in italics.

•  Done Italicised. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• married Maria – a surname, if known, should be included here.

• No surname listed in the source, unfortunately. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Try this, which comes from Senta (2019) (already in the Further reading section). The name provided is Rallo. Amitchell125 (talk) 07:29, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done Added surname. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:30, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

• Salvatore is not notable, and so need not be distinguished from his siblings by being mentioned by name.

•  Done Removed. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Why eventually?

•  Done Removed. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Unlink Egypt; United States.

•  Done Unlinked. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Introduce William McKinley.

•  Done Introduced as "United States President". --Grnrchst (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Life in the United States

• Duplicate link - capitalism.

•  Done Removed. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• He escaped to Canada – this connects with the text in the previous paragraph, so I would consider combining the two.

•  Done Combined. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Link stonemasons (Stonemasonry); labor unionism (Labor unions in the United States); chemical formula. Is this the right term? On its own, the formula would have been insufficient to enable anyone to produce the explosive.

•  Done Linked. I corrected it to simply "formula", per the source. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• launched a – ‘launched’.

•  Done Removed "a". --Grnrchst (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Unlink North America (MOS:OL).

•  Done Unlinked. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• by authorities – ‘by the authorities’.

•  Done Added "the". --Grnrchst (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Introduce Francesco Saverio Merlino in the text.

•  Done Introduced as "Neapolitan socialist"

• In 1905, - the comma not needed imo.

•  Done Removed. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Arrested, he was brought back to Paterson and tried – ‘He was arrested and tried’?

• I think it needs to specify that he was taken to Paterson. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Understood. AM

• Galleani is mentioned by name 15 times in this section, which is excessive. Once per paragraph? (This comment could apply elsewhere.)

• I'll go through the article and try to cut down on excessive uses of his name. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

•  Done Removed most of the cases I came across and replaced with pronouns. I think I should have cut down on the most excessive uses. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:47, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Deportation and death

• Link federal (Federation); sedition; polemic.

•  Done Linked. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• This made him a target – it needs to be clearer as to what This is referring to.

•  Done Clarified to "His anti-war activities". --Grnrchst (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• To avoid the issue with the punctuation at the end of the sentence, consider amending publishing them together in 1925 as the book The End of Anarchism?. To something like ‘publishing them together in his book The End of Anarchism? (1925)’.

•  Done Rearranged. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Introduce Errico Malatesta; Benito Mussolini.

•  Done Introduced as "Neapolitan anarchist" and "the Italian dictator" respectively. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• He spent time – ‘Galleani spent time’ makes the prose clearer.

•  Done Clarified. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• the passage – it’s unclear what is being referred to here.

•  Done Clarified. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Unlink Mexico.

•  Done Unlinked. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• police surveillance – police seems unnecessary, as the police are mentioned again a little further on.

•  Done Removed "police". --Grnrchst (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Political ideology

• Duplicate links - anarcho-communism; reformist; propaganda of the deed; assassination of William McKinley.

•  Done Removed links. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:01, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Introduce Max Stirner; Peter Kropotkin.

•  Done Introduced as "German individualist" and "Russian communist" respectively. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:01, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• He defended – ‘Galleani defended’.

•  Done Assuming this is referring to the part about the assassinations. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:01, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Legacy

• a campaign of terrorist attacks – briefly, where did these attacks take place?

• The rest of the paragraph goes onto describe that. Does it need further clarification? --Grnrchst (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

I think of the dates of the bombings, how many attacks took place, and a mention of how devastating they were would be useful. Amitchell125 (talk) 07:37, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

@Amitchell125:  Done Ok, I've added details about the attacks. How's this? --Grnrchst (talk) 12:53, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Looks a lots better. AM

• series of bombings – consider extending the link to ‘series of bombings in 1919’.

•  Done Extended. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Duplicate link - Italian Fascism.

•  Done Removed. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Introduce Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti.

•  Done Introduced as "Italian American anarchists". --Grnrchst (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• sentenced to death – it’s not clear here that the sentence was actually carried out (it was).

•  Done Clarified to "executed". --Grnrchst (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Unlink World War II (MOS:OL).

•  Done Unlinked. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• received an English language translation – ‘was translated into English (unlinked).

•  Done Rearranged and unlinked. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• The section has four short paragraphs – consider combining a couple (e.g. 2 and 3)?

•  Done Combined paragraphs 2 and 3. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• which killed 33 people - I would check this number, as not all the sources agree with it.

• Cited source does say "causing an explosion that killed 33 persons". It is itself citing the following sources:

• Cannistraro, Philip V. 1996. “Mussolini, Sacco-Vanzetti, and the Anarchists: The Transatlantic Context.” Journal of Modern History 68: p. 39;
• Whelehan, Niall. 2005. “Political Violence and Morality in Anarchist Theory and Practice: Luigi Galleani and Peter Kropotkin in Comparative Perspective.” Anarchist Studies 13: pp. 160–161;
• Young, William, and David E. Kaiser. 1985. Postmortem: New Evidence in the Case of Sacco and Vanzetti. Amherst: University of Massachusetts Press, p. 126.

How should I proceed with this? --Grnrchst (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Let's be anarchic and let it be. Amitchell125 (talk) 11:43, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Selected works

• This section need only be a list of works (see WP:MOS-BIBLIO). If you want to keep the full citations, the section would need to follow the References section.

•  Done Reformatted per manual of style. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:58, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

See also

• L' Adunata dei refrattari is linked in the article, and so shouldn’t be listed here.

•  Done Removed. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:12, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Bibliography

• There is a url available for Avich’s chapter here.

•  Done Added. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• Senta (2019) is used, and so should not be listed here.

•  Done Moved to Further reading. --Grnrchst (talk) 20:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

• The spot checks I did seem fine.

External links

• GALLEANI – no capitals should be used
• The section needs to be checked to make sure the titles match the actual websites, as they don’t all do this at present.

• I decided to remove this section, as it was either links to Galleani's writings that are already mentioned or about the Galleanisti. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:03, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

On hold

I'm putting this highly readable article on hold for a week until 23 July to allow time for the issues raised to be addressed. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 18:43, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

@Amitchell125: Ok, I think I've addressed everything! Let me know if there's anything more I can do from here. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:04, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Passing

Pass the article now, congratulations. Amitchell125 (talk) 16:55, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.