Talk:Lycorma meliae

Merge with Lycorma olivacea

See discussion at Talk:Lycorma olivacea. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 01:15, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Agree - ref provided. Roy Bateman (talk) 06:59, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 11:46, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Comments

There's little wrong with this short but well-constructed article. I have a few mainly small textual comments. I've made a couple of very small fixes in the lead.

• " a separate species, Lycorma olivacea" ... why not say L. olivacea, as the genus has already been named.

 Done

• Masayo Kato is overlinked in the lead; the second instance should just use the surname.

 Done

• "will undergo", "will vary", "will develop", "will lay", etc: please drop all the "will"s as redundant and distracting. The eggs develop, period.

 Done

• "follows a hemimetabolous life cycle.[5] This means that L. meliae experiences a series of incomplete metamorphoses that gradually change the body's structure over successive molts.[6] L. meliae does not experience a pupal stage.[7]" ... is an exercise in redundancy, as hemimetabolism = incomplete metamorphosis = gradual molts and no pupa. Suggest we melt the whole claim down to one sentence, something like "is hemimetabolous, meaning that at each molt, the next stage (instar) becomes more like the adult."

 Done

• Suggest you gloss Melia azedarach with "The tree" or perhaps better "The chinaberry tree".

 Done

• There is no image in the ecology section. Why not use a photo of the chinaberry tree, captioned "The host plant" or some such?

 Done

• The Description uses "color" six times; only in "a series of color changes" is the word necessary. So for instance "from a brown to black color" is better and shorter as "from brown to black".

 Done

• An image of an early instar would be desirable; you could place an image request for one such. Obviously this is outwith the GA criteria.

 Done

• "native solely to" => "endemic to"

 Done

• "Owing to their name as planthoppers": no, this isn't the cause of their locomotory habit. Perhaps "As the name planthopper suggests,"

 Done- cut

• "In total, L. meliae goes through 5 life stages." --- this is not wrong but is confusing. The formulation in the lead, that there are 4 instars before adulthood, is better.

 Done

• "is referred to as 'sooty mold'" => "is called 'sooty mold'".

 Done

• Taxonomic classification (is that redundant?) places ... L. imperialis as closely related to L. meliae: but molecular phylogenomics does not, per the cladogram?

 Done Cut the sentence. This was more an observation of the Lycorma genus, but I can see how it is confusing. Technically, L. imperialis wasn't included in this study, hence why it doesn't show up on the cladogram section.

• The images appear to be correctly licensed.

• What makes Natural History Curiosities a Reliable Source?

 Done I've just gone ahead and cut it. It is running afoul of WP:OR.

• Not sure why we're citing Britannica; it doesn't seem to support the paragraph, except perhaps through the invalid whole-part (all planthoppers do X => L. meliae does X) line of (OR) reasoning. The paragraph "Owing to their name ... through the winter" appears to need fresh citations.

 Done, I've cut the paragraph. Britannica was only citing the 'honeydew' term since it wasn't explicitly stated in the other source, in hindsight I should've been more granular with my source. I was unsure if WP:BLUE applied to that.

• The other sources I checked are satisfactory.

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@Chiswick Chap: kicking it back to you. I've gone ahead and cut the questionable paragraph you mentioned above. Besides that, most of the other edits I made were procedural in nature. Thanks again for picking this up and reviewing it so quickly!!! 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 19:25, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Super. It's a GA. I hope you'll pick something from the list to review! Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:57, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 14:50, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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Lycorma Meliae

• ... that Lycorma meliae's (pictured) wings undergo multiple color changes throughout their lives? Source: https://zoolstud.sinica.edu.tw/Journals/62/62-07.html
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Infinity Repeating (2013 Demo)

Improved to Good Article status by Etriusus (talk). Self-nominated at 04:12, 2 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lycorma meliae; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed: - na
• Used in article: - NA
• Clear at 100px: - NA

QPQ: Done.

Overall: There are good images in the article if you wish to add them to your DYK. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 12:13, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

I added a free image from the article as suggested by the nominator. Lightburst (talk) 14:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4 and Etriusus: Info above Lightburst (talk) 14:53, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

The DYK content

I saw the source mentioned about this species can change its color but I didn't see anything specific about the wings color. In page 18 of the file, I just saw "This species performs a series of body coloration transformation during the process of maturation, from scarlet red, pale reddish brown, brown, olivaceous green to cerulean blue".

The statement you quote refers to the wings, not the "body" in the technical sense (head, thorax, abdomen). It's a careless use of the vernacular, but it is in fact talking about the wings. Dyanega (talk) 14:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)