Talk:Lymph node/Archive 1

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Archive 1

are they moveable?

lymph nodes can be felt through the skin in alot of areas,particularly the neck and upper back,doctors say they are commonly confused with cysts,which are movable,anyone know if it is true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.161.208.105 (talk) 19:48, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


nodes are movable and are compressable, where as cysts are immobile and hard.

The image is wrong : the valves on incoming vessels are oriented in the wrong direction, the way they look they are preventing the lymph from entering the node instead of preventing it from going backwards (from the node to the tissues). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.53.221.152 (talk) 22:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Distribution

The 'distribution' section is probably only comprehensible for people who did anatomy classes, not for a general audience as Wikipedia articles are supposed to be. For example "Posterior cervical: These nodes extend in a line posterior to the sternocleidomastoids but in front of the trapezius, from the level of the Mastoid portion of the temporal bone to the clavicle." The section needs a rewrite, and the linked lymph node articles as well. Han-Kwang (t) 23:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC) hi my peeps

I agree, and I would extend the same criticism to the majority of the article. I would also recommend a better diagram, that shows exactly where each lymph node is. I know that such diagrams exist (I remember seeing one in a textbook at one point), but someone might need to create one, as I doubt that there are any already in the public domain. Kleio08 (talk) 11:45, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Inline citations

The article is in fairly good condition except for inline citations. I'll try to add some in the course of time, but it'd be nice if some one else, too could add them. Doing so will help it attain B-class quite easily. —KetanPanchaltaLK 14:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Cures

In HIV/AIDS, the lymph nodes swell. To cure the swelling you have to unswell it....or perhaps remove it. To unswell it, you would have to remove the cause of the swelling which could be an infection or irritation. My question is does anybody know how to cure the swelling of lymph nodes in any case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.71.226.63 (talk) 01:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment

This comment was originally made on the main page by 12.72.37.28 (not me!) and got reverted. However in case it is valid (I don't know enough on the subject to judge), I've moved it to the talk page:

I think you have this all screwed up: These thinks are PUMPS, a more significant feature than merely "nodes", and their function is to pump lymphatic fluid into a vein, thus returning it to the bloodstream whence most of it originated. They also do not merely act as "filters or traps" but as holding points for white blood cells ( lymphocytes ) which are quite capable of scrutinizing all returning lymphatic fluid for foreign material, and of attacking same and destroying same before it gets injected into the blood stream and hence carried to other parts of the body. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmvalin (talkcontribs) 20:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I have two lymph glands in my neck that are going to be there for the rest of my life. They are a pain in the neck (pardon the punnet). When I first found them i panicked thinking the worst. I went to the doctors and they expalianed what they were as long as I could move them they were nothing to worry about, when they swell they are uncomfortable but they are important in ensuring my body fights off all infections.

Does anyone else have these and is worried?

N.J.W —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.184.110 (talk) 13:14, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Size?

The article says nothing about the size of lymph nodes, nor do the diagrams even give a hint. I know there's 500-600 of them, so they can't be that big. But the article could include a sentence or addition to a diagram that indicates the size. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.122.237 (talk) 05:27, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Size and Shape

In this section of the article, the wording is misleading. It says that lymphocytes are also known as white blood cells. It would be better to say that they are a subclass of WBC's. You also have to remember neutrophils, macrophages etc. The current wording would imply to the first time learner that if you're not a lymphocyte, you're not a WBC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Creightonian (talkcontribs) 16:14, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Latin name

The box says

   Latin nodus Lymphetusamisopantheomustatismospheyoi

Seems like an oddly long latin word, is there a source for this? A google search only shows this on wikipedia and in places that mirror wikipedia.

70.30.237.83 (talk) 00:55, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Fixed it. Thanks for your vigilance. Looks like someone's sneaky joke; it's been there for quite some time. Haploidavey (talk) 01:14, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Filters?

The article says the lymph nodes act as "filters" and no more. This completely neglects the function of the lymph nodes as part of the immune system, specefically, the collection of antigens, and production of plasma cells. I don't have time to edit it now..., but this article needs atten by someone with a function based understanding. Signed: Studying Immunology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.99.183.76 (talk) 03:05, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I had a look at the function bit and besides the filters bit it was a bit confusing, like when it said, "lymphocytes that collect and destroy bacteria and viruses" is not too accurate. I decided to re-write the whole Function bit, hope it reads better, and a bit more understandable to the layman. i'll try to reference it soon, when i figure out how to do that! Herophilus (talk) 18:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

If lymph nodes are filters, is it a good idea to remove them, as in lymphadenectomy. Isn't this a bit like removing the oil filter in your car because its dirty?Danensis (talk) 10:09, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Cortex of lymph node

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was to merge. Iztwoz (talk) 08:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

I have proposed this merge, between these about an anatomical substructures, for the following reasons:

  1. Displaying this information on separate pages impacts on overall readability and quality. It leads to significant duplication, means that these articles, by virtue of being separate, do not receive as much attention as they otherwise would, and is unnecessary.
  2. By presenting this in a single article, the overall quality of the information and readability would be improved.
  3. This articles could, if necessary, be improved at a later date. LT910001 (talk) 08:12, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Agreed. Also, I doubt anyone is ever going to conduct a search on Wikipedia for "Cortex of lymph node" and hope to find this specific article— if anyone wants to know about that cortex, they are probably going to look for it under "Lymph node" first anyway. I say: Merge 'em.
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Proposed merge with Medulla of lymph node

As stated above LT910001 (talk) 07:28, 8 April 2014 (UTC)   Done

Proposed merge with Trabeculae of lymph node

Readily merged, benefits readers by having extra information on page, stopping needless fragmentation Tom (LT) (talk) 02:25, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Lymphoid nodules vs lymph nodes

the entry for lymphoid nodules redirects to lymph nodes. I suspect this may be in error. These two structures are similar but do possesses some unique features. Someone with a better understanding of this topic is encourage to comment 198.108.132.221 (talk) 18:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Lymph node/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

I have failed this for Wikipedia 0.7 as it has Start Class quality and it does not seem important. Funpika 20:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

==Not important?==

Eh? Not important?! The greatest medical challenges of our time (cancer, immune system) seem to involve lymph nodes and "it does not seem important"? --Kcrossle (talk) 00:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Human-body-and-system

Human_body — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.178.37.37 (talk) 08:25, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Immature T cells?

"The region of the lymph node called the paracortex immediately surrounds the medulla. Unlike the cortex, which has mostly immature T cells, or thymocytes, the paracortex has a mixture of immature and mature T cells. Lymphocytes enter the lymph nodes through specialized high endothelial venules found in the paracortex."

I think there is confusion between cortex/medulla of thymus and cortex/medulla of lymph node. Thymocytes migrate from cortex to medulla during T cell development in the thymus and are not found circulating in peripheral lymphoid tissue.

2607:FEA8:87E0:F41:C5F1:4DF:9744:995C (talk) 01:18, 17 October 2018 (UTC)