Talk:Lynching in Ramallah

Latest comment: 15 years ago by ErikWarmelink in topic Removing the egyptian article

Removing the egyptian article

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photo evidence http://inhonor.net/ramlah/ shows that they werent wearing palestinian police uniforms, or dressed undercover as arabs. They were wearing army fatigues, therefor the entire account is fictitious, and not worthy of being in a scholarly article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drsmoo (talkcontribs) 20:11, 3 March 2007

However, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/969778.stm which we already use as a source also claims that the second picture depicts "A Palestinian grabs one of the Israelis (who was in plain clothes)". How reliable is http://inhonor.net? It is fairly easy to find pictures of mutilated people in army fatigues. Anyway, your "evidence" is no reason to delete another source. Erik Warmelink (talk) 23:15, 8 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ramallah lynching and the shooting of al-Durrah

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It's well known that all the Palestinians were enraged by the killing of Mohammed al_Durrah, and that's why, for the first time ever, they turned on the reservists and carried out the Ramallah lynching.

Here's what the BBC said about it: "The Israeli army believes the men were forcibly abducted. The Palestinian police deny that they were arrested and deliberately put in danger. Vadim and his colleague found themselves surrounded by an angry mob. Ominously a poster of Mohammed al-Durrah and his father was prominently displayed. The two Israelis were hustled into the local police station. The media were warned not to take pictures as the crowds forced their way in."[1] I don't understant why it's been reverted from the article. PRtalk 19:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

I don't understand your WP:OR. So the BBC reported that a poster was displayed, how did you reach from that to your conclusion ? Seems a stretch. Any why should they be enraged on Israelis when Arab Palestinians killed Mohammed Al Durrah ? Seems strange. Amoruso (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Media sources make it clear that the death of Al-Durrah resulted in a surge of anger and violence that blossomed in the following months and years. In particular, we know that it played a part in these deaths (and is directly linked to the killing of Daniel Pearl, amongst others).
There is likely other significant material missing from this inadequate article, I see a source claim there were 4 in the car, the other two in plain-clothes, and they were tracked down and killed some hours later. PRtalk 17:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
If that's the case, bring a source that says it. Saying that the poster was there doesn't say what you said. Btw, psychologically rage and revenge can be an "excuse" for a very short time, for example - Baruch Goldstein being enraged over recent Isralei victims of terror, not years of murders. Amoruso (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Many sources state that the Rammallah lynching is directly linked to the killing of al-Durrah, ditto the Daniel Pearl beheading. When pathetic excuses for Israeli terrorism state against civilians are all over the encyclopedia (including articles glorifying terrorist gangs such as the Stern Gang), it seems extraordinary that people seek to edit war out reference to this well known link. Here's one NPOV version of what could be in there: "Recently enraged by the widely broadcast footage of the killing of 12 year-old Muhammad al-Durrah[1][2] a Palestinian mob stormed the police station, and beat the soldiers to death, throwing their mutilated bodies into the street." PRtalk 13:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
  1. ^ French TV Sticks by Story That Fueled Palestinian Intifada "pictures had ... "devastating" consequences - including the public lynching of two Israeli soldiers", February 15, 2005. Verified 31st Oct 2007.
  2. ^ When Peace Died "Ominously a poster of Mohammed al-Durrah and his father was prominently displayed." BBC, 17th Nov 2000. Verified 17th Nov 2007.