Talk:M-5 (Michigan highway)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Does M-5 reach downtown Detroit?

Yes

• [1] lists M-5 as Grand River Avenue to US-12
• 2006 traffic map
• 2001 Physical Reference Atlas

No

• [2] (2002) refers to "Old Highway M-5" along Grand River Avenue from exit 185 to Washington Boulevard and the westbound route on Clifford Street and Middle Street
• [3] refers to a short piece of "Old M-5" being turned back in 1992
• [4] (GIS data) calls the part downtown "Old I-96 BS"
• PR Finder shows the end at exit 185; I'm not sure if it has data for the rest of the Grand River Avenue trunkline

Unclear

• MDOT map: shows it red all the way to downtown, but doesn't label it

--NE2 13:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Another no vote is that it is unsigned as M-5 in that stretch. -- KelleyCook 16:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the definitive answer is no. A quick perusal of the GIS MGFv7b (2007-06-01) for Wayne County lists 11.372 km of Grand River as Unsigned Trunkline (which happens to the distance from I-96 to Cass Road) and 18.801 as signed as M-5. Note that the signed portion should be only 13.6 km according to Google Maps, but the MGF data includes (~6 km) of divided highway as well as the various Michigan Lefts which tend to double the mileage in that section. http://www.mcgi.state.mi.us/mgdl/framework/Wayne_frwk.zip -- KelleyCook 19:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Assessment

The article has all the "big four", even though the RD is lacking, so it's up at C-class. CL — 01:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Interaction with 9 Mile

In the Route Description section, I notice that between the 10 Mile and Grand River interchanges along the freeway portion that there is no mention of the freeway's interaction with 9 Mile. There is limited connnections on the southside of the freeway: an off-ramp just west of the intersection of 9 Mile and Farmington Road, and an on-ramp a few blocks to the east where 9 Mile pretty much directly runs into/onto the freeway before it turns slightly southeast to parallel the freeway as Folsom Road, which appears to be a service drive. Perhaps, this needs to be mentioned for the stretch of the freeway in Farmington (Farmington's only interchange with the freeway since both the 10 Mile and Grand River interchangs are in neighboring Farmington Hills). That is, unless the word "interchange" has a formal and official definition that would disqualify the labeling of the interactions Farmington has with the freeway at that of-ramp and on-ramp. --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:29, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

The RD section need not list nor describe every single interchange; that's the the point of the exit list section. Imzadi 1979 → 08:29, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Of course, I'd generally agree with this. The problem is that the part describing the freeway in Farmington and Farmington Hills seems so overwritten, so that if you'd going to talk about the Grand River and 10 Mile interchanges - which if they are going to be mentioned, should be mentioned in the direction we're talking about the freeway (i.e. eastbound) - there should probably be a single sentence mention of the 9 Mile partial interchange in Farmington, since it's that city's only interchange on the freeway. My only issue, then, is that that part of the route description should either be trimmed down to simply mention that it goes through Farmington and Farmington Hills (with mention of the end of the freeway section at Grand River, of course), or it should be reworded to clear out some redundancies, and add in a mention of the 9 Mile interchange. BTW, is anyone going to change the incorrect map showing M-5 extending all the way down Grand River? --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:54, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

I think you're confused, the M-5 freeway intersects Grand River twice, once at 10 Mile and once at its eastern end. As for the map, there's a request page for map corrections linked from the USRD project banner. Imzadi 1979 → 08:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)