Talk:MV Joyita

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Why is it mysterious that 25 people drowned? Baloogan 08:58, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

"had observed something the Japanese did not want them to see."

Secrets of Japanese fishing industry? very convincing.

It's considered analogous to the case of the Mary Celeste an abandoned ghost ship found off the coast of Portugal in 1872. In fact, The Joyita case is sometimes referred to as The Mary Celeste of the Pacific. I'm going to work on beefing this article up so that it is apparant that paranormal explanations for the disappearance of the passengers have been offered. It is not my intent to weight the article in any one direction, however. I'm just pointing out that this case gets people to speculating.Lisapollison 21:32, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

We could probably put back in the zombie theory of the dissapearance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.142.251 (talk) 22:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Reference tagging - try being helpful please - there IS a reference list

I've noticed that over time, almost every asserted fact has been tagged as needing a reference despite the fact that this article contains an older style wikipedia reference section that lists the books where the facts were obtained. When references have been given, slapping fact tags all over the article isn't particularly very helpful and can be viewed as vandalism. More helpful would be for the concerned tagger to utilize Google books to find the specific page and then to convert the older style reference list into inline citations. A large number of paranormal articles such as this one were written using the older format. Please be part of the solution and not part of the problem by resisting the urge to slap up gratuitous fact tags. Utilize the existing references when possible and simply convert them to inline cites. Also, one tag at the top saying additional references are needed is preferable to 4 or 5 section tags. The readers will get the point that one or more editors think better sourcing could be done. Defacing the article with so many tags has the effect of POV pushing.LiPollis (talk) 04:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Only book that has preview in Googlebooks is Wright's Joyita: Solving the Mystery. All other are available in libraries, but unfortunately not in here where I live. So request to those living in NZ or nearby, please borrow the books, and add references as "Book, page xx" or similar. Thanks.--RicHard-59 (talk) 19:18, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Why is the article incomplete?

I can't help but notice there's a glaring omission from the article. WHERE IT IS TODAY. The history stops at the early 1960s, with it being bought by Robin Maugham. Doesn't say if he kept it to this day, sunk it, whatever. This is an incomplete article. If anyone has the required information to complete this article, please bring it forth. 76.228.67.224 (talk) 12:34, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Info added.--RicHard-59 (talk) 19:20, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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A crew of 16?

I'm curious as to why a 69-foot yacht would carry a crew of 16. Normally a boat that size would need no more than 4-6 crewpersons. Indeed, I have never heard of a yacht that size carrying a crew of more than 7 or 8, even when catering to demanding owners/passengers (e.g., crewpersons providing service, rather than simply handling the boat). Can anyone explain why the Joyita would have such a large crew? Bricology (talk) 00:16, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

According to Wright:

The Joyita nominally needed a crew of ten seamen, including the captain. Only nine had gone on the month-long April trip, and it remains unclear why so many embarked in October. Several of them were young Tokelauans living in Apia who wanted to work on the Joyita for the sake of the wages, and the crew list may have been extended in order to help them. Some Tokelau crew members may have signed up because they wanted to pursue a scheme that called for the purchase of freehold land to establish a Tokelau settlement in which people from the atolls could be hosted by those already based in Apia.

— Wright, David (2002). Joyita: Solving the Mystery. Auckland University Press. pp. 21–22. ISBN 978-1-86940-270-9.

Google Books gives a decent preview. Brycehughes (talk) 00:40, 12 July 2022 (UTC)