Talk:MV Missourian (1921)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 21:23, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• "Pennsylvania for" comma.

  If this is the one in the lede, no need for an Oxford comma as "for" does not indicate a direction.

• Is there a synonym for "renamed" so it can be avoided being used five times in as many sentences?

  No.

• "7,899 GRT, 7,712 NRT,[2] 11,450 DWT" don't use acronyms without expanding/explaining them first. Applies throughout.

  These are initialisms, not acronyms. Standard with ship articles, per RMS Magdalena (1948), which is a GA.

  But readers should be told what the initials stand for before then in initialisms are used. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:25, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

  It turns out there is a workaround provided in the templates - amended.

• "Single Action" what is this and why is it capitalised?

  A single acting cylinder only works on the up or down stroke. Most internal combustion engines are single action. Wikilinked and decapitalised.

• "one 30 ton, one 10 ton, eleven 5 ton and eight 3 ton derricks" each of the "30 ton" etc is being used as an adjective so "30-ton.." etc.

   Done

• "Pennsylvania for" comma again.

  As above

• "Company.Her keel" space.

   Done

• "was laid on" aren't keels normally laid down?

   Done

• "first time on 1 July" what year? After launching??

  Pretty obvious it's 1922. Yes, the engines were installed after launching.

• "the largest motor vessel afloat" in the world??

  That's what the source says.

• "and Code Letters MDQP" why capitalise?

  Proper Nouns are capitalised, as are the actual letters MDQP.

  Our article doesn’t capitalise Code Letters. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:26, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

  decapitalised

• In infobox, why is UK and Saudi linked and other countries not? What's the strategy?

  a brainfart I suppose. Unlinked - I normally link the United Kingdom, but there's no need to link the United Kingdom here.

• "Initially operated" missing a subject.

  see below

• Or that sentence needs to use a comma instead of a full stop.

   Done - I prefer this to a minor reword

• "pronounced a success" by what measure?

  Lack of teething troubles, as explained by the following two sentences

• "from Hamburg, Germany to" comma after Germany.

   Done Ah, the Oxford comma again

• "San Pedro - New York - Hamburg" en-dashes, not hyphens.

   Done

• "America at San Pedro, Los Angeles.[14]" overlinked.

   Done - wl removed

• Subsection headings of "History" section should be in italics if ship names.

   Done

• "In summer 1940" avoid seasons as they differ in timing depending on where you are in the world.

  Difficult one this, the quoted book source only states "summer", which means June 21 to September 20. Missourian had been reflagged to the UK by 19 July. Have wikilinked summer.

• "arrived at Liverpool, Lancashire on " comma before on

   Done

• "was London. The" no need to link major geographical locations.

   Done unlinked

• "and Code Letters" caps again?

  As above

• "the Clyde on" needs clarification as the fact this is in Glasgow and why the ship was there.

  Was it Glasgow? Paisley, Greenock, Dunbarton, Port Glasgow, Gourock and many other places are on the Clyde. She had been there to load her cargo.

• "the Genoa - River Plate route" and River Plate appears to be piped to a redirect.

   Done - endash and diacritic added

• "at 8,776 GRT. Renamed" overlinked.

   Done - unlinked

• "Genoa-Australia" en-dash and all other routes appear to be spaced.

   Done

• You link starboard but didn't link port above.

   Done - port and starboard both linked at first occurrence

• "She was again chartered" last "she" was Bayliss' wife.

   Done changed to Flaminia

• "the Marseille - Haifa route." dash/spacing etc.

   Done

• "Spezia, Italy for repairs" comma.

   Done

• "the IMO Number" number.

• it's a Proper Noun.

• Not according to our own article. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:28, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

• Decapitalised. Mjroots (talk) 13:45, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

• Since amended, it was a Lloyd's Register number, LR numbers were introduced 1987. Mjroots (talk) 18:55, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

• "at Kaohsiung, Taiwan on" comma.

   Done

• Sources, year range should have an en-dash.

   Done

On hold! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:13, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: - Thank you for your review. I've been through the article and made most of the amendments you suggested. Have explained why where I've not made an amendment. Let me know if there's anything else that needs adjustment. Mjroots (talk) 13:18, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

commas are GEOCOMMA commas. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:23, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man:  Done Mjroots (talk) 13:43, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: - I think that's everything now. Mjroots (talk) 14:25, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Okay, nice work, happy to promote now. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:21, 17 May 2021 (UTC)