Talk:MV Star of Malta
Latest comment: 4 years ago by Cwmhiraeth in topic Did you know? nomination
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Did you know? nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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- ... that the MV Star of Malta made a round-the-world cruise, belonged to a Dominican Republic dictator and served in the United States Navy before becoming a passenger ferry?
Sources: "...the high point of the Camargo’s time on the high seas was the Fleischmann family’s round-the-world excursion." (Cincinnati Magazine), "In 1938 Camargo was sold to the President of the Dominican Republic, Generalissimo Rafael Trujillo... In 1942 she was acquired by the US Navy... In 1952 she was sold to a Maltese, Paul M. Laferla, who operated her thrice weekly as the passenger ferry Star of Malta" (Times of Malta)
- Reviewed: Abu Abdallah al-Baridi
Created by Xwejnusgozo (talk). Self-nominated at 01:12, 18 January 2020 (UTC).
- Hi Xwejnusgozo, review follows; article created 18 January; article exceeds minimum length; article is well written; sources are good on the whole, one query: what makes navsource.org a reliable source (I've not come across it before)? I've noticed some of the article text is a bit close to that of the sources, eg:
- "In 1947, she was acquired by the Minster SS Co. Ltd (Mitchell Cotts & Co. Malta), and she was renamed Westminster." "In 1947 she was acquired by the Minster SS Co. Ltd (Mitchell Cotts & Co. Malta) and renamed Westminster."
- "and served as a convoy escort in the Panama Canal. On 9 June, while still in the Caribbean, she made a depth charge attack against a suspected enemy submarine" "she served as convoy escort en route to the Panama Canal, and on 9 June made a depth charge attack against a suspected enemy submarine in the Caribbean." (also our article states escort in the Panama Canal and the source says escort en route to the canal.
- "On 16 June 1944, she arrived at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, and she was placed in reduced commission on 28 June" "She arrived at Puget Sound Navy Yard 16 June 1944 and was placed in reduced commission 28 June"
- " She was decommissioned on 4 October 1944, being transferred to the War Shipping Administration for disposal. Her name was struck from the Navy List on 14 October." "Marcasite decommissioned 5 October 1944 and was transferred to WSA for disposal. Her name was struck form the Navy list 14 October 1944"
- "Most of the passengers and crew managed to swim ashore or were picked up by small boats which came to the rescue." "Some passengers and crew swam ashore or were picked up by a fleet of small boats which came to their assistance."
- "The vessel was refloated in August 1955, and she was towed to the Rodriquez shipyard in Messina, where she was repaired." "In August that year the Star of Malta was re-floated and towed to the Rodriques shipyard in Messina, where she was repaired."
- "She was sold to Cantieri Navali delle Grazie of La Spezia in March 1966, where she was broken up." "She was sold in March 1966 to Cantieri Navali delle Grazie, La Spezia, Italy where she was broken up,"
- "She was decommissioned on 4 October 1944, being transferred to the War Shipping Administration for disposal" "Decommissioned 5 October 1944 and transferred to the War Shipping Administration for disposal"
- I appreciate there may be limited ways to phrase things in some instances but we need to minimise the similarities above where we can. Hook is interesting, mentioned in the article and backed up by the sources; a QPQ has been carried out - Dumelow (talk) 07:26, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: Thanks for the review! I see your point re close paraphrasing - some sentences did end up being too similar to the sources. I just rewrote some parts of the article to try to rectify the situation (Earwig's Copyvio Detector now stands at 16.7%). I also removed the "navsource.org" sources and replaced them by the definitely more reliable NHHC sources (except for the engines which aren't mentioned by the NHHC - for this I cited the Cincinnati Magazine source). Hope that all is well now - if there are any other issues please do let me know and I'll try my best to fix them. Xwejnusgozo (talk) 13:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Great work Xwejnusgozo, all good now. I really enjoyed reviewing/reading this article, thanks - Dumelow (talk) 19:05, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: Thanks for the review! I see your point re close paraphrasing - some sentences did end up being too similar to the sources. I just rewrote some parts of the article to try to rectify the situation (Earwig's Copyvio Detector now stands at 16.7%). I also removed the "navsource.org" sources and replaced them by the definitely more reliable NHHC sources (except for the engines which aren't mentioned by the NHHC - for this I cited the Cincinnati Magazine source). Hope that all is well now - if there are any other issues please do let me know and I'll try my best to fix them. Xwejnusgozo (talk) 13:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)